XPost: comp.mobile.android, sci.geo.satellite-nav
From: this@ddress.is.invalid
Char Jackson wrote:
> On 24 Sep 2023 17:48:31 GMT, Frank Slootweg wrote:
>
> >Char Jackson wrote:
> >> On 24 Sep 2023 09:01:16 GMT, Frank Slootweg
wrote:
> >>
> >> >Char Jackson wrote:
> >> >> On 23 Sep 2023 12:44:30 GMT, Frank Slootweg
wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >Char Jackson wrote:
> >> >> >> I would just add that a Mobile Data switch probably isn't actually
> >> >> >> needed. My phone, a Samsung Galaxy S20FE, doesn't appear to have
such
> >> >> >> a switch, but it does have Airplane Mode, which does the same thing.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> If I wanted to disable only Mobile Data, I would have to enable
> >> >> >> Airplane Mode, which disables mobile data, WiFi, and BT, then
> >> >> >> manually re-enable WiFi and BT.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > But Airplane mode also disables calls and SMS. That's why most
phones
> >> >> >have a 'Mobile data' on/off toggle, in addition to all the other ones.
> >> >>
> >> >> I think you missed the last part of what I wrote. :)
> >> >
> >> > No, I didn't, but you missed what *I* wrote! :-)
> >> >
> >> >> c/p
> >> >> >> If I wanted to disable only Mobile Data, I would have to enable
> >> >> >> Airplane Mode, which disables mobile data, WiFi, and BT, **then
> >> >> >> manually re-enable WiFi and BT.**
> >> >> (emphasis added)
> >> >>
> >> >> So that's how I disable mobile data, which I admit is an extremely
> >> >> infrequent thing, but on closer examination I see now that my Samsung
> >> >> Galaxy S20 does, indeed, have a Mobile Data switch. I'll probably
> >> >> never use it since I'm used to using the Airplane Mode method.
> >> >
> >> > Yes, I understand that. But *my* point is that when you do that, you
> >> >*also* switch off calls and SMS. That may not matter to *you*, but is
> >> >*my* point:
> >>
> >> You're right, but calls and SMS are only off for a second or two, right?
As
> >> quickly as you can hit the WiFi switch, they're back on again. For me,
that
> >> hasn't been a big deal.
> >
> > Ah, I see our confusion!
> >
> > What's back on is *WiFi* calling/SMS
>
> Yes! :)
>
> >(if your provider and phone supports that).
>
> I thought that most do, but perhaps it's less than I thought.
>
> >I meant normal 'cellular' calling/SMS.
>
> But doesn't that use Mobile Data where you are? If you turn off Mobile
> Data, isn't WiFi your only remaining option for calls/SMS? Where I am,
> we don't use circuit switched cellular connections anymore. Instead,
> it's all packet switched for quite a few years now, so calls, SMS, and
> other data are all just data. At least, that's my understanding.
Yes, it's all data, but it's not all 'Mobile data'. Quite confusing,
but that's how it is. I just had a similar discussion with sms (the
poster), about MMS using data, but not 'Mobile data'.
The easiest to explain is probably that 'Mobile data' is data used for
Internet access and gets billed (or is included in your bundle)
*seperate* from calls/SMS/MMS. Any other data is not 'Mobile data'.
Another comparison/analogy: If you have fixed broadband, every thing -
TV, telephone, Internet - is 'data', but the Internet part is seperate
from the internet parts.
In my mobile 'plan', I can see how much is used/charged for calls and
SMS on one side and for Mobile data on the other side. If Mobile data is
switched off on the phone, calls/SMS are still charged in the calls/SMS
part and nothing is charged in the Mobile data part.
In short: For 'Mobile data' just read 'Mobile Internet use'.
> >Cellular
> >calling/SMS is off, because Airplane mode turns off *all* radios and the
> >only way to turn the 'cellular' radio back on, is to switch off Airplane
> >mode.
>
> Agreed.
>
> > Does this explain our misunderstanding?
>
> Yes, and my apologies for dragging it out. My little neck of the woods may
not
> be representative of the entire world.
No apology needed, none at all. It's very confusing. I just (think I)
understand *this* bit. Ain't technology great! :-)
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