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   david to Paul   
   Re: Why does Microsoft maintain an SSID    
   07 Dec 23 14:03:32   
   
   XPost: comp.mobile.android, alt.comp.os.windows-10   
   From: this@is.invalid   
      
   Using , Paul wrote:   
      
   > According to this, they're still doing it.   
   > https://support.microsoft.com/en-au/office/learn-more-about-yo   
   r-location-sharing-privacy-in-microsoft-teams-free-d97a9da3-eded   
   451c-8008-52f3a0661ba7   
      
   You're correct that Google & Mozilla & Microsoft are lying about this.   
      
   "We also tested to see if it respects an opt-out mechanism for people who   
   do not want their home router's data getting scooped up in a broad data   
   collection: appending "_nomap" to the network's SSID. We combined this with   
   Microsoft's now defunct opt-out mechanism (for an alternative purpose) of   
   appending "_optout" to the SSID. We tested each individually and both   
   orderings of the two by inserting fake scan results, and found that Huq   
   collected them all."   
   https://blog.appcensus.io/2021/10/25/what-the-huq/   
      
   Mozilla apparently lied when they said they respect the SSID_optout also.   
   https://location.services.mozilla.com/optout   
   "Mozilla's client applications do not collect information about WiFi access   
   points whose SSID is hidden or ends with the string _nomap."   
   But they lied. See above.   
      
   Microsoft is supposed to have stopped using the _optout_ designation.   
   https://krebsonsecurity.com/2016/05/microsoft-disables-wi-fi-sen   
   e-on-windows-10/   
   "Microsoft has disabled its controversial Wi-Fi Sense feature, a component   
   embedded in Windows 10 devices that shares access to WiFi networks to which   
   you connect with any contacts you may have listed in Outlook and Skype -   
   and, with an opt-in - your Facebook friends."   
   But they lied also. See above.   
      
   They all lied.   
   https://shirlleycoyle.wordpress.com/2021/10/25/location-data-fir   
   -got-gps-data-from-apps-even-when-people-opted-out/   
      
   You can add the SSID_optout_nomap but they won't respect it.   
   They never had any intent to respect it.   
      
   The only thing you can do is not broadcast your home router's AP SSID.   
      
   Then the phones won't upload it unless they're set up specifically in the   
   promiscuious mode which isn't the default except for WiGle or Netstumbler.   
      
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