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   Message 55,492 of 55,960   
   Oscar Mayer to Jolly Roger   
   Re: Surveillance Risk: Apple's WiFi-Base   
   30 May 24 14:13:52   
   
   XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, alt.privacy   
   From: nobody@oscarmayer.com   
      
   On 30 May 2024 15:54:58 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote:   
      
   >> The problem is Apple.   
      
   > Yes, you can do that with Wigle as well.   
      
   No you can't.   
      
   It's obvious you have no idea what the problem is, especially since every   
   cite on the Internet directly blames Apple and Apple alone for this flaw.   
      
   "In this work, we show that Apple's WPS can be abused to create a privacy   
   threat on a global scale." [https://arxiv.org/abs/2405.14975]   
      
   > Again, routers broadcast their   
   > B/SSIDs to the world - everyone can see them, which is why there are   
   > numerous databases of them.   
      
   What is obvious you don't understand, besides what a BSSID is, is that   
   every cite on the Internet blames Apple alone - and that's because how   
   Apple implemented the lookup (for example, by allowing an infinite number   
   of lookups without any checks whatsoever and then, to make it worse, by   
   reporting over 400 nearby BSSID's when you look up just one).   
      
   Apple Location Services vulnerability   
   [https://9to5mac.com/2024/05/24/apple-location-services-vulnerability/]   
   "We first need to understand how Apple devices figure out their locations."   
      
   > There's nothing special about Apple in that   
   > regard. It's just another database of WiFi SSIDs.   
      
   Why do you think only Apple has this problem, which, I'm sure you'll deny,   
   but every single cite on the Internet about it directly blames Apple alone.   
   [https://securityboulevard.com/2024/05/apple-wi-fi-location-privacy-richixbw/]   
    "Academic researchers have criticized Apple for enabling stalkers and   
   warlords. An unrestricted Apple API endpoint allows for easy tracking of   
   almost any vendor's Wi-Fi access point location."   
      
   Every cite on the net blames Apple and Apple alone for this privacy flaw.   
   [https://cybernews.com/privacy/apple-beams-wifi-location-data-privacy-risk/]   
    "Apple will provide your WiFi location to anyone sending a query, and   
   researchers demonstrated that "an unprivileged, weak attacker" - in other   
   words, anyone - can exploit Apple's WiFi-based positioning system (WPS) to   
   perform global mass surveillance."   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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