XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, alt.privacy   
   From: andrew@spam.net   
      
   Jolly Roger wrote on 30 May 2024 21:33:55 GMT :   
      
   > Of course it is. It's broadcast by routers. It's public information.   
   > There is no "privacy violation" inherent in looking at publicly   
   > broadcast information.   
      
   That sentence proves beyond any doubt that these ignorant uneducated Apple   
   religious zealots have absolutely no understanding of how broadcasts work.   
      
      Their only desperate goal is to defend Apple's flaws to the death.   
      
   See technical notes in the sig since adults understand what they do not.   
   --   
   Note 1: The hidden broadcast won't hide the BSSID from a seasoned attacker   
   (such as a Google or Apple tracking vehicle - depending on how its code is   
   written); but the mere act of hiding the SSID broadcast packet has been   
   proven to prevent the normal users' device (i.e., mobile phones) from   
   uploading your BSSID using the typical software that we are speaking about.   
      
   Note 2: Since the Apple religious zealots act only out of franctic   
   desperation to make excuses for all Apple's vulnerabilities, it should be   
   noted that an intelligent person knows the difference between the upload of   
   the BSSID (which is a first-order issue) vs the deletion of the BSSID from   
   the Internet databases (which requires second-order software processing).   
      
   Note 3: There's no way the Apple religious zealots will understand the two   
   notes above, but for the intelligent people reading this thread, it should   
   be noted that if you do hide your broadcast packets, then you often might   
   want to set your client (such as a phone) to "remember" and "reconnect";   
   but this has other issues - where the Apple zealots won't understand but   
   you might understand that the "remember" is fine (unless you're worried   
   about your phone being stolen) but the "automatic reconnect" should be   
   turned off because that setting causes the phone to seek out the named AP.   
      
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