XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, alt.privacy   
   From: andrew@spam.net   
      
   Jolly Roger wrote on 30 May 2024 21:37:35 GMT :   
      
   >>> Wigle.net and other databases also let you look up routers   
   >>> by SSID and BSSID.   
   >>   
   >> Every excuse   
   >   
   > There is no excuse. WiFi routers broadcast their SSIDs as well as their   
   > BSSIDs to the world. That's how WiFi works, you ignorant troll.   
      
   If I'm ignorant and you know so much about how broadcasts work, why does   
   nothing you have ever said show any indication of how they actually work?   
      
   Note 1: While almost every router has an option to hide the broadcast   
   packets, that hidden broadcast setting won't prevent a seasoned attacker   
   (such as a Google or Apple tracking vehicle - depending on how its code is   
   written) from pulling the packets out of a netstumbler/wireshark wardriving   
   scan, but the mere act of purposefully hiding the SSID broadcast packet has   
   been proven to prevent the normal users' device (i.e., mobile phones) from   
   uploading your BSSID using the typical software that we are speaking about.   
      
   Note 2: Since the Apple religious zealots act only out of franctic   
   desperation to make excuses for all Apple's vulnerabilities, it should be   
   noted that an intelligent person knows the difference between the upload of   
   the BSSID (which is a first-order issue) vs the deletion of the BSSID from   
   the Internet databases (which requires second-order software processing).   
      
   Note 3: There's no way the Apple religious zealots will understand the two   
   notes above, but for the intelligent people reading this thread, it should   
   be noted that if you do hide your broadcast packets, then you often might   
   want to set your client (such as a phone) to "remember" and "reconnect";   
   but this has other issues - where the Apple zealots won't understand but   
   adults might understand that the "remember" is fine (unless you're worried   
   about your phone being stolen) but the "automatic reconnect" should be   
   turned off because that setting causes the phone to seek out the named AP.   
      
   *Or is it that your only goal is to defend Apple's flaws, to the death?*   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)