XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, alt.privacy   
   From: singularity@blackhole.org   
      
   On 2024-05-31 13:37, Andrew wrote:   
   > Alan Browne wrote on Thu, 30 May 2024 19:18:55 -0400 :   
   >   
   >> The "general" case is that it is absolutely not an Apple issue.   
   >> SSID/BSSID's are OPENLY AND LOUDLY BROADCAST WORLDIWDE IN THE BILLIONS.   
   >   
   > The fact is you're defending Apple's holes, to the death, no matter what.   
      
   I'm not defending what Apple do.  What Apple do is their choice and it   
   is no more harmful than what others do.  It's different.  That's all.   
      
   But you do you: desperately misinform and spread BS   
      
   > Every desperate excuse you make for the flaws in Apple's implementation   
   > show you not understand what only Apple does that's different here.   
   >   
   > Worse, you were not aware the outward facing MAC address cannot be cloned   
   > (in almost all routers and particularly in the tested travel routers).   
      
   Completely irrelevant.  But play all you want.   
      
   >   
   > And you were not aware that the SSID is meaningless for this exploit, other   
   > than the workaround that Apple suggested (of appending _nomac to the SSID).   
      
   You're clearly not following.   
      
   >   
   > Furthermore, you're still not aware that a "hidden broadcast" has been a   
   > feature of nearly every router since the dawn of Wi-Fi, where the mere act   
   > of clicking that checkbox prevents the BSSID from being *uploaded* to the   
   > Google and Apple and Mozilla and Wigle databases, by default. (See notes in   
   > the sig, given the Apple religious zealots don't understand this issue).   
      
   Not only understand it, have reliable knowledge that hardly anyone uses it.   
      
   You're really grasping.   
      
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