XPost: comp.mobile.android, alt.comp.os.windows-10   
   From: andrews@spam.net   
      
   Roger wrote on Mon, 11 Nov 2024 22:17:24 +0000 :   
      
   >>4. Instead of relying on signal strength measurements, Wi-Fi RTT   
   >>   with FTM measures the time-of-flight (ToF) between an RF packet   
   >>   sent from your phone to several nearby APs. While Wi-Fi RTT with   
   >>   FTM worked over both the standard 2.4 & 5GHz bands, it was never   
   >>   widely deployed in the field, so you¢ve probably never used it   
   >   
   > This may be a silly question but why would a phone be sending   
   > anything to APs that it doesn't know and therefore cannot use?   
      
   Good question.   
      
   I do not know the answer to that specific question, which is a valid   
   question, but I can't answer it directly - but - I can respond with the   
   knowledge that most people's phones *do* send access point data to the   
   unique-access-point-BSSID/GPS and very public databases - that the phone   
   itself, "doesn't know and therefore cannot use".   
      
   Mine doesn't do that because I'm not stupid.   
   But most people are stupid.   
      
   Their phones dutifully hoover up every access point in range & sends the AP   
   unique BSSID & unique GPS location to Google's public online databases.   
      
   These phones "don't know the AP and therefore can't use them".   
   But Google can.   
      
   Which is why intelligent people protect their access point from hoovering.   
   And polite people set up their phone to *not* hoover that AP information.   
      
   But it takes care & knowledge to know what to do in order not to be rude to   
   every person whose house you drive by that is openly broadcasting an SSID.   
      
   That technical knowledge is what this question is trying to discover.   
      
   Q: What do we need to do to protect ourselves from 802.11az Wi-Fi Ranging?   
   A: ?   
      
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