XPost: comp.sys.mac.system, misc.phone.mobile.iphone   
   From: mariond@facts.com   
      
   Brock McNuggets wrote:   
   >> Most people on iOS/Android are rudely allowing global tracking of you.   
   >   
   > Most people are allowing tracking of me?   
      
   The concept is that OTHER PEOPLE are constantly violating your privacy.   
      
   Unless they're intelligent & knowledgeable about devices. Like I am.   
   Then they aren't violating your privacy.   
      
   It's an important point about being intelligent with your phone setup.   
      
   > Um, they can't track me so how can they allow others to?   
      
   While both default iOS and default Android each violate your privacy,   
   intelligent people on Android can at least violate your privacy less.   
      
   I wrote up this thread that explains the technical issues better.   
    From: Marion    
    misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.mobile.android,alt.internet.wireless   
    FACTS about Apple/Google crowd-sourced Wi-Fi & Cellular location tracking   
    Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2025 12:48:11 -0700   
    Message-ID: <10eo6pq$20q4$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>   
      
   >> Note this is two different things:   
   >>  a. Most people are rudely contributing to the tracking databases   
   >>  b. Most people are rudely being tracked by the tracking databases   
   >>   
   >> Note specifically that I'm intelligent & well informed & not rude.   
   >   
   > Intelligent. Maybe.   
   > Well informed. Maybe, but certainly not as much as you think.   
   > Not rude: Not as rude as some but hardly lacking in that trait.   
      
   Well, I think it's rude for people to upload your private information to   
   Google's and Apple's public databases, but you might not think it rude.   
      
   >>  a. Hence, I am NOT contributing to the tracking databases   
   >>  b. And I am NOT being tracked by the tracking databases   
   >>   
   >> But you are.   
   >   
   > We all are.   
      
   Not me.   
      
   1. My phone does NOT upload anybody's private finterprint to the databases.   
   2. Yours does.   
      
   > If you thin Google and MS and FB do not have you in their databases then you   
   > are delusional.   
      
   Not me.   
      
   1. My router is not in Google's or Apple's databases.   
   2. Yours is.   
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