XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-10, comp.mobile.android, misc.phone.mobile.iphone   
   From: nospam@needed.invalid   
      
   On Tue, 12/2/2025 3:35 PM, J. P. Gilliver wrote:   
      
   >   
   > They usually (since the ISP supplies them) have a version of the   
   > manufacturer's software, tweaked to suit the ISP. I'm not _aware_ of any   
   > that are remote-flashed by the ISPs, but it wouldn't surprise me.   
      
   Some networking devices, they have "auto-flash capability".   
   The locked-down config you cannot see, has two URLs.   
      
      https://... NAND Flash image   
      
      https://... Configuration file   
      
   and this is supposed to allow "secure push" from the ISP.   
   I've even had one unlocked box I bought, get flashed by   
   the ISP (by some trickery, as the two URLs weren't loaded   
   as I later found them). They can have the capability to   
   take over a box (maybe it's just one of those 12345   
   type passwords :-) ).   
      
   And the Alcatel ADSL1 modem-only box, had remote flash too, because   
   a university analysis of the box found there were exploitable   
   features, and the ADSL modem would come to your home, and   
   they would flash them up once the box was online. That's how   
   some of the known exploits would be removed. They would do that,   
   rather than have a warehouse full of modems and some poor individual   
   go around, open the boxes, and flash them.   
      
   ISP grade boxes, can have multi-level passwords, and if you use   
   the web interface on the ISP-provided box, all you get is the   
   slick background image and no controls at all to use. When you   
   buy the same box unlocked, the boxes still are not as feature   
   complete as a DLink would be. For example, the unlocked box   
   I've got, to program the damn Firewall, is a hundred lines of   
   crap in a text file (no GUI!). It's four lines of text per rule.   
      
      Paul   
      
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