XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, alt.comp.os.windows-10, comp.mobile.android   
   From: nuh-uh@nope.com   
      
   On 2025-12-02 08:40, Marian wrote:   
   > Chris wrote:   
   >   
   >>>   
   >>> For those wishing to know more about this topic, most people have their   
   >>> router Wi-Fi AP set to broadcast the SSID, which means it's uploaded to   
   >>> world-wide publicly accessible databases whether they like it or not.   
   >>>   a. The (unique) GPS location (of the phone uploading it) is uploaded   
   >>>   b. The signal strength (of the signal to the phone) is uploaded   
   >>>   c. The (unique) BSSID (MAC address) is uploaded - which is essentially   
   you   
   >>   
   >> A router is not a person. At worst it represents a household in the same   
   >> way a postal address does.   
   >   
   > Hi Chris,   
   >   
   > If you move from one home to another, and if you take your router with you,   
   > then the "bad guy" can trace your movements exactly as to time & location.   
      
   Except no one ever does that.   
      
   The internet facing hardware is (almost) always, owned by the ISP you use.   
      
   >   
   > They know your exact location & exactly when you changed locations.   
   >   
   >>>   d. The (normally non-unique) SSID is uploaded (with or without _nomap)   
   >>>   
   >>> Every mobile device owned by ignorant/rude people is uploading that privacy   
   >>> to the world-wide publicly accessible databases (which have been abused).   
   >>   
   >> No they haven't. A theoretical observation has been made. There's no   
   >> evidence of "abuse".   
   >   
   > I know what you're talking about, but most people reading this won't know   
   > that the Apple system (versus the Google system) is atrociously designed.   
   >   
   > The way Apple does it is Apple allows hundreds upon hundreds of access   
   > point location information to be downloaded in a single instance by anyone   
   > on the planet, while Google's system is far more constrained in terms of   
   > abuse potential.   
      
   Cite, please!   
      
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