XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-10, comp.mobile.android, misc.phone.mobile.iphone   
   From: robin_listas@es.invalid   
      
   On 2025-12-02 17:26, Marian wrote:   
   > Carlos E.R. wrote:   
   >>> Disable remote administration to your router (duh) & use HTTPS for login.   
   >>   
   >> That removes the warranty. Seriously. My router is remotely managed by   
   >> my ISP. Not via plain ssh login, they have their own dedicated channel.   
   >   
   > Hi Carlos,   
   >   
   > Thanks for adding the missing information that the router may be managed by   
   > the ISP, which, of course, somewhat changes what you can and cannot do to   
   > effect better privacy/security.   
   >   
   > I'm actually surprised, Carlos, that the ISP manages "the router", where I   
   > would NOT be surprised if the ISP manages "the modem" (even as I'm well   
   > aware that router:modem combinations exist (which may be what you have).   
      
   It has a direct fibre port, integrating what previously was a separate   
   gadget called ONT (Optical network terminal). That may qualify as a modem.   
      
   They do some maintenance. We can call the technical service when we have   
   a problem, and they can login remotely to assist in our problem. Saves   
   them a trip. I understand they have some kind of management platform,   
   where they enter client data and get connected to our router. That   
   platform is the same for the dozens of router models they install.   
      
   I assume they apply updates, but I have no proof of this.   
      
   I can change the login password and do my own management (I do), but   
   they keep another port for that remote management they do. That's the   
   one that would break the support contract.   
      
   >   
   > In my case, I don't have a modem since I get my Internet from a dozen miles   
   > away over the air via WISP, but my "rooftop transceiver" is managed by the   
   > WISP (although he gives me his password so that I can make changes).   
   >   
   > Most people in the USA don't have a transceiver like I do; they have a   
   > modem, and some people have a modem which is combined into a router.   
   >   
   > I am unfamiliar with that setup personally, since I've never owned a modem,   
   > but I've bought them for my kids when they moved into apartments, so I'm   
   > familiar with the concept that you seem to be speaking about.   
   >   
   > Thanks for adding the extra value so that everyone on the team benefits.   
      
      
   --   
   Cheers, Carlos.   
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