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   Marian to Chris   
   Re: Discussion: How to set up your mobil   
   05 Dec 25 17:49:46   
   
   XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, alt.comp.os.windows-10, comp.mobile.android   
   From: marianjones@helpfulpeople.com   
      
   Chris wrote:   
   > It still just boils down to knowing my home address. Which is already   
   > public knowledge.   
      
   Hi Chris,   
      
   You're smarter than that.   
      
   I get it that all the Apple trolls are desperate to minimize the privacy   
   implications of what has widely been reported as a privacy nightmare.   
      
   You Apple trolls always defend everything Apple to the death.   
   No matter what.   
      
   So it's natural that you and Jolly Roger claim that Apple's invasion of our   
   privacy is, in the words of Jolly Roger "a nothing burger".   
      
   But you need to realize privacy professionals out there disagree with you.   
    *Why Your Wi-Fi Router Doubles as an Apple AirTag*   
       
      
   For you Apple trolls to claim the security professionals are wrong is your   
   own way of defending everything Apple does, to the death, no matter what.   
    *Surveilling the Masses with Wi-Fi-Based Positioning Systems*   
       
      
   Luckily, of all the Apple trolls, you're one who sometimes can exercise   
   critical thinking processes, so allow me to give you a local example.   
      
   Since WaveDigger has a special query mode where you can enter a single SSID   
   or BSSID, and instead of just returning that access point's location, it   
   also pulls in the surrounding access points that Apple's Wi-Fi Positioning   
   System has observed in the same area.... just... try this...   
      
   Windows:   
   1. Press Win+R   
   2. Type: cmd   
   3. In the command prompt, type:   
      netsh wlan show networks mode=bssid   
   4. Look for your SSID name   
   5. Under it, find "BSSID" lines   
   6. Copy the MAC address (format: AA:BB:CC:DD:EE:FF)   
      
   Linux:   
   1. Open a terminal   
   2. Type: sudo iwlist scan   
   3. Find your SSID in the output   
   4. Look for "Address:" lines   
   5. Copy the MAC address (format: AA:BB:CC:DD:EE:FF)   
      
   MacOS:   
   1. Open a terminal   
   2. Type: airport -s   
   3. Find your SSID in the list   
   4. Copy the BSSID shown (format: AA:BB:CC:DD:EE:FF)   
      
   Once you have the BSSID, you can paste it into WaveDigger lookup tool.   
   1. Open the WaveDigger site:   
      https://wavedigger.networksurvey.app/?tab=bssid   
   2. In the "BSSID" field, type your MAC address:   
      11:22:33:AA:BB:CC   
   3. Click the "Lookup" or "Search" button.   
   4. The map will show the location of that access point.   
      If you enable "include surrounding access points",   
      it will also list nearby BSSIDs Apple has observed.   
      
   Once you have the BSSID of all your neighbors, if one of them moves to a   
   new house, you can track them if they use their router at the new home.   
   --   
   Privacy takes intelligence to understand, but most people give up.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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