XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, alt.comp.os.windows-10, comp.mobile.android   
   From: ithinkiam@gmail.com   
      
   Marian  wrote:   
      
   Donald changing his nym non-randomly to avoid killfiles noted. This was   
   never about privacy.   
      
   >   
   >> You spend all your time   
   >> trying to protect your privacy and fail at the simplest level.   
   >   
   > Apple advertised that they would respect the _nomap suffix as an extremely   
   > clear and very obvious indication that we wished to not be in their db.   
   >   
   > That Apple put my BSSID in their database is an indication of their lack of   
   > moral rectitude.   
      
   Firstly, the _nomap is on your user-defined SSID. Secondly, what is   
   collected is the BSSID/MAC which in most cases cannot be edited.   
      
   You can choose to hide your SSID. So if you've hidden your SSID the nomap   
   option is superfluous as it won't show up anyway.   
      
   There isn't, as far as I can see, an obligation to *remove* a MAC from the   
   WPS db if they *never see* the nomap request.   
      
   >   
   >> [1] we literally can't, because a MAC only links a property. There's no   
   >> other info inherent in that.   
   >   
   > To claim we have no right to privacy is wrong;   
      
   There you go changing the narrative to suit your ends. No-one has made that   
   claim.   
      
   > the real issue is that our   
   > rights are being undermined by systems designed without meaningful consent.   
      
   A MAC like an IP or a physical address is public information. There's no   
   requirement for consent.   
      
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