XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-10, comp.mobile.android, misc.phone.mobile.iphone   
   From: marianjones@helpfulpeople.com   
      
   J. P. Gilliver wrote:   
   > BSSID not found in Apple's database. This may be a new or unregistered   
   > access point.   
      
   Practically, the only way your BSSID won't be in Apple's WPS database is   
   either no Apple mobile device ever got close enough to upload it in recent   
   time (assume a week or two), or, you've appended "_nomap" to your SSID.   
      
   Or, if, as you noted below, this system only works in select countries.   
      
   > But I thought your whole beef was that your BSSID was in the database,   
   > despite your having added "_nomap" to it. But you _can't_ add "_nomap"   
   > to a string of hex pairs.   
      
   This is Apple's policy. I followed it. Yet my BSSID is in their database.   
      
       
    "The owner of a Wi-Fi access point can opt it out of   
     Apple's Location Services - which prevents its location   
     from being sent to Apple to include in Apple's crowd-sourced   
     location database - by changing the access point's SSID (name)   
     to end with '_nomap.' For example, 'Access_Point' would be   
     changed to 'Access_Point_nomap.'"   
      
   I can't explain more than that since I should NOT be in Apple's database.   
      
   >> There are some WPS databases, as I noted in my prior post, which can take   
   >> an SSID input, apparently, if that's what you really want to query on.   
   >>     
   >   
   > If by that you mean I can use its name, I tried that page, just filling   
   > in its name - and nothing _seemed_ to happen when I clicked submit. Then   
   > after 20 seconds or so (when I retried, anyway), it came up with   
   >   
   > Search Results: 0 Points ( Save Link | Map | JSON | KMZ | GPX )   
   >   
   > . (So both wavedigger and wifidb didn't find me. Since they look like   
   > they're US-limited, I'm not surprised.)   
      
   You have to enter a BSSID into the URL like this:   
       
   If you're not in Apple's WPS database, consider yourself safe (for now).   
      
   I received a response from a security professional and from Mozilla but not   
   yet from Apple so I asked an Apple VP who is my neighbor to help me out.   
      
   The highest-level Google neighbor is a VP in HR which isn't a good   
   connection; the rest are engineers at Google but not management personnel.   
      
   I'll tackle Google later. Right now I demand that Apple explain to my   
   satisfaction why my access point is in their database when I opted out.   
      
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