XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-10, comp.mobile.android, misc.phone.mobile.iphone   
   From: robin_listas@es.invalid   
      
   On 2025-12-07 17:51, Marian wrote:   
   > Char Jackson wrote:   
   >>>> In the early 2000s I used to think that dd-wrt router firmware was   
   >>>> complex, but the fog clears over time. It includes vlans, among many   
   >>>> other things.   
   >>>>   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>> When I say that my ISP setup of the router is complex, I mean things   
   >>> like that the setup includes 3 active VLANs, and more things. If I buy   
   >>> my own router, first I have to decode out the entire setup of the old   
   >>> router, and then replicate it in the new router. Ie, create again those   
   >>> 3 VLANs, and every other thing they did, which are not documented. You   
   >>> have to reverse engineer the setup of the provided router.   
   >>   
   >> I don't see anything complex about setting up consumer networking gear,   
   >> but I'll take your word for it.   
   >   
   > I agree with Char Jackson, who has helped me over the years to set up old   
   > Linksys & Netgear routers on DD-WRT as bridges (and as bridge repeaters).   
   >   
      
   It is simple if someone takes the effort of describing what you have to   
   configure in the new router. Not that easy if you have to reverse   
   engineer the old router and it has no comments nor help. Just the   
   obscure short name of a setting.   
      
      
   ...   
      
   > In all those years, I haven't explicitly run into VLANs but implicitly many   
   > guest networks and repeater bridges make use of VLANs as far as I'm aware.   
      
   Nothing implicit. One VLAN is for the phone land line, another is for   
   TV, another is for internet (my guess).   
      
   This is just a small part of what my router calls:   
      
   Network Setting   
     Bridging Setup   
       Bridging   
       Filtering   
       Marking   
      
   https://paste.opensuse.org/pastes/7c7fef46eaef   
   https://paste.opensuse.org/pastes/9acdc9974acd   
   https://paste.opensuse.org/pastes/88d9c37538af   
   https://paste.opensuse.org/1aece5657e7a   
   https://paste.opensuse.org/872479cefbdb   
   https://paste.opensuse.org/a827cc71d713   
      
      
   just try to explain what that does. A mistake, and my phone stops   
   working. And there are maybe hundreds of screens like that.   
      
      
   No, I am not actually interested. It is just an example of why I say   
   that the setup of my router by the ISP is complex.   
      
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