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   Marian to Carlos E.R.   
   Re: How to test if your access point BSS   
   08 Dec 25 07:04:25   
   
   XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-10, comp.mobile.android, misc.phone.mobile.iphone   
   From: marianjones@helpfulpeople.com   
      
   Carlos E.R. wrote:   
   > Sorry, I can't help with that. But yes, Apple should take the hint that   
   > if the SSID is hidden, they should not list the associated BSSID either.   
   >   
   > If you have a free unused/old router or access point, you could set it   
   > up with a hidden _nomap SSID, and without connecting any of your phones   
   > to it, wait to see if the BSSID appears listed after a month or two. It   
   > would be interesting to check every day with a script, to see how fast   
   > they update.   
      
   Andy Burns wrote:   
   > Ask some friends who use iPhones to come round for a coffee, the more   
   > devices hoovering up data the better?  They may only add BSSIDs to the   
   > DB if they've seen them via multiple devices.   
      
   I appreciate the input from both Carlos & Andy in that both of you seem to   
   understand the problem set, which is I didn't consent to be tracked.   
    a. I hid my SSID (which is a clear non-consent active action), and,   
    b. I added _nomap to all my SSIDs (which is another active non consent).   
   And yet, I'm in the Apple WPS database down to the middle of the house.   
   (Wavedigger maps are accurate to 8 digits pinpointing the exact home!)   
      
   The fact is that I have plenty of Apple devices in the home, maybe even   
   more than Android devices, so I don't need to bring in more iPhones. :)   
      
   We're all smart people so we can see that "something" is wrong.   
   But what?   
      
   It could be Apple (e.g., a bug).   
   Or, it could be me (as Andy has intimated in a prior post).   
      
   I've met with my neighbor who is a VP at Apple who knows me extremely well   
   so he takes my claims seriously, so we'll find out soon if it's a bug.   
      
   Or, it could be "something that I did"; but what?   
      
   I'm thinking that I need to look more deeply at how repeaters and bridges   
   pass BSSIDs. I'm not really all that familiar with how BSSIDs propagate.   
      
   I'll dig a bit to see if maybe a repeater/bridge threw me under the bus.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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