XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-10, comp.mobile.android, misc.phone.mobile.iphone   
   From: robin_listas@es.invalid   
      
   On 2025-12-08 15:04, Marian wrote:   
   > Carlos E.R. wrote:   
   >> Sorry, I can't help with that. But yes, Apple should take the hint   
   >> that if the SSID is hidden, they should not list the associated BSSID   
   >> either.   
   >>   
   >> If you have a free unused/old router or access point, you could set it   
   >> up with a hidden _nomap SSID, and without connecting any of your   
   >> phones to it, wait to see if the BSSID appears listed after a month or   
   >> two. It would be interesting to check every day with a script, to see   
   >> how fast they update.   
   >   
   > Andy Burns wrote:   
   >> Ask some friends who use iPhones to come round for a coffee, the more   
   >> devices hoovering up data the better?  They may only add BSSIDs to the   
   >> DB if they've seen them via multiple devices.   
   >   
   > I appreciate the input from both Carlos & Andy in that both of you seem to   
   > understand the problem set, which is I didn't consent to be tracked.   
   > a. I hid my SSID (which is a clear non-consent active action), and, b. I   
   > added _nomap to all my SSIDs (which is another active non consent).   
   > And yet, I'm in the Apple WPS database down to the middle of the house.   
   > (Wavedigger maps are accurate to 8 digits pinpointing the exact home!)   
   >   
   > The fact is that I have plenty of Apple devices in the home, maybe even   
   > more than Android devices, so I don't need to bring in more iPhones. :)   
   >   
   > We're all smart people so we can see that "something" is wrong. But what?   
   >   
   > It could be Apple (e.g., a bug).   
   > Or, it could be me (as Andy has intimated in a prior post).   
   >   
   > I've met with my neighbor who is a VP at Apple who knows me extremely well   
   > so he takes my claims seriously, so we'll find out soon if it's a bug.   
   >   
   > Or, it could be "something that I did"; but what?   
   >   
   > I'm thinking that I need to look more deeply at how repeaters and bridges   
   > pass BSSIDs. I'm not really all that familiar with how BSSIDs propagate.   
   >   
   > I'll dig a bit to see if maybe a repeater/bridge threw me under the bus.   
      
   Doubtful.   
      
   The SSID is the same, so would have the _nomap, but I'm unsure about the   
   BSSID keeping or not.   
      
   In any case, you can find out if the SSID is published or hidden by any   
   of those repeaters/bridges. Just move near to each one of them, and   
   query the laptop information. Make sure it is connected to it by   
   comparing the strength of the signal.   
      
   --   
   Cheers, Carlos.   
   ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;   
      
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