XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, alt.comp.os.windows-10, comp.mobile.android   
   From: robin_listas@es.invalid   
      
   On 2025-12-12 11:24, Chris wrote:   
   > Carlos E.R.  wrote:   
   >> On 2025-12-10 03:54, Marian wrote:   
   >>> Carlos E.R. wrote:   
   >>>>> Regarding Frank's assessment that hiding the SSID and putting _nomap   
   >>>>> on the   
   >>>>> SSID "makes one suspect"... Suggesting that opting out makes you   
   >>>>> 'suspect'   
   >>>>> flips the logic. In a system where consent is assumed unless you opt   
   >>>>> out,   
   >>>>> taking the opt-out step is the rational, privacy-protective choice.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Yes, but it also signals "I have something to hide!". It makes you   
   >>>> "interesting".   
   >>>   
   >>> I never disagree with any sensibly valid point of view, so people never   
   >>> waste their time when they bring up a counterpoint with me, as I do   
   >>> understand what your're saying but we have to look at the scale of consent.   
   >>>   
   >>> There must be millions upon millions of people who do not consent to   
   >>> tracking, even as there must be billions who consent to tracking their AP.   
   >>   
   >> Huh, no. Maybe 80% of users do not even know they have that option.   
   >> Their ISP gives them a router, they just plug it in, done.   
   >>   
   >> Only geeks and technical people know.   
   >   
   > I agree, although I'd say the number is nearer 99%. I have never ever seen   
   > a "_nomap" SSID and I have been aware of it for easily over 5 years.   
      
   Right, but I meant the percent of people that know how to customize   
   their rooter.   
      
   Similarly, I don't recall ever seeing it.   
      
   >   
   > And when querying wifi networks almost none are changed from the ISP   
   > default.   
      
   Around my house I see three customized of mine, one random (computer   
   generated long random string), 3 "TP-Link..." one "ARRIS". So everybody   
   else except the random one is using factory defaults. Or provider defaults.   
      
   Using WiFi Analizer (Android) upstairs I see a few more, also generated   
   by the ISP.   
      
      
      
      
   --   
   Cheers, Carlos.   
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