XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-10, alt.comp.microsoft.windows   
   From: marianjones@helpfulpeople.com   
      
   Chris wrote:   
   > Jeff Liebermann wrote:   
   >>   
   >> I can't determine if either company has a reason to have a longer   
   >> Lat/Long. However, notice the number of digits in the Lat, which are   
   >> mostly zeros, except for the last digit:   
   >> Latitude: 32.459438320000004   
   >> I don't know what they're doing, but it looks like they're using the   
   >> Latitude to store some kind of data or ID. There are several other   
   >> entries in the data that show a similar pattern of 8 places to the   
   >> right of the decimal point for useful data followed by 6 zeros and 1   
   >> numeric digit.   
   >   
   > These are from loss of precision in the storing of floating-point numbers   
   > in python. They aren't real. The source data will not include all the   
   > zeros.   
      
   The precision is a red herring, in my opinion, since the fact that you   
   can't get out of the Apple WPS database even though you followed all of   
   Apple's legally binding published policies is the main privacy issue.   
      
   Apple's decision is legally, morally & ethically reprehensible, so I will   
   start working on getting Apple to change their decision any way that I can.   
      
   However, to the point of the raw precision in the Apple WPS database, I've   
   modified the open source Apple bssid locator tools to report raw integer   
   values in addition to conversion to the human-readable GPS coordinates.   
      
   Here are raw/converted values for the bssid lookup on the access point   
   located near 4302 Josey Cir, Shreveport, LA 71109 (as a random AP lookup).   
      
    00:18:f8:c1:4a:65 3245990371 -9381384277 32.459904 -93.813843   
    02:aa:a0:e3:5f:38 3245890808 -9381494903 32.458908 -93.814949   
    44:1c:12:99:23:58 3245909881 -9381492614 32.459099 -93.814926   
    44:1c:12:99:23:5b 3245910644 -9381491088 32.459106 -93.814911   
    44:1c:12:99:23:5d 3245910644 -9381491851 32.459106 -93.814919   
    44:1c:12:99:23:5e 3245911026 -9381491088 32.459110 -93.814911   
    06:aa:a0:e3:5f:38 3245891952 -9381494903 32.458920 -93.814949   
    72:13:01:01:99:9a 3245920944 -9381445312 32.459209 -93.814453   
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    ec:aa:a0:e3:5f:38 3245891571 -9381494140 32.458916 -93.814941   
    fa:aa:a0:e3:5f:38 3245891571 -9381493377 32.458916 -93.814934   
    12:36:aa:7d:3d:b1 3245915603 -9381276702 32.459156 -93.812767   
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    14:c0:3e:38:ef:36 3245923614 -9381269073 32.459236 -93.812691   
    16:c0:3e:38:ef:36 3245925140 -9381269836 32.459251 -93.812698   
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    40:48:6e:f1:9f:34 3245958328 -9381306457 32.459583 -93.813065   
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    8e:76:3f:b7:b7:97 3245984649 -9381256103 32.459846 -93.812561   
    96:76:3f:b7:b7:97 3245984649 -9381255340 32.459846 -93.812553   
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    98:52:4a:86:fa:4f 3245908355 -9381267547 32.459084 -93.812675   
    98:52:4a:86:fa:51 3245908355 -9381267547 32.459084 -93.812675   
    98:52:4a:86:fa:52 3245908737 -9381268310 32.459087 -93.812683   
    9e:ad:43:48:4a:a8 3245934677 -9381259918 32.459347 -93.812599   
    9e:b0:66:13:26:c1 3245907211 -9381227874 32.459072 -93.812279   
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    d6:6c:6d:83:12:4d 3245933914 -9381251525 32.459339 -93.812515   
    da:13:99:28:92:b0 3245917510 -9381269836 32.459175 -93.812698   
    e8:97:b8:8e:5d:0a 3245927047 -9381250000 32.459270 -93.812500   
    0e:c0:3e:38:ef:36 3245924758 -9381269073 32.459248 -93.812691   
    ec:aa:a0:79:a6:b8 3245919418 -9381246185 32.459194 -93.812462   
    f4:0e:83:d7:fb:68 3245946121 -9381263732 32.459461 -93.812637   
    fa:aa:a0:79:a6:b8 3245920181 -9381246185 32.459202 -93.812462   
    fc:ae:34:94:57:f0 3245948028 -9381231689 32.459480 -93.812317   
    fe:ae:34:94:57:f1 3245947265 -9381232452 32.459473 -93.812325   
    00:71:c2:b2:32:68 3245960998 -9381239318 32.459610 -93.812393   
    16:71:c2:b2:32:68 3245961761 -9381238555 32.459618 -93.812386   
    1a:71:c2:b2:32:68 3245961761 -9381238555 32.459618 -93.812386   
    10:93:97:0a:e7:80 3245982742 -9381553649 32.459827 -93.815536   
    12:36:aa:62:9c:39 3245925140 -9381566619 32.459251 -93.815666   
    12:36:aa:62:9c:3a 3245926284 -9381568908 32.459263 -93.815689   
    12:36:aa:62:9c:3d 3245923614 -9381565856 32.459236 -93.815659   
    12:36:aa:62:9c:3e 3245925521 -9381567382 32.459255 -93.815674   
    12:36:aa:85:84:c9 3245957183 -9381577301 32.459572 -93.815773   
    18:9c:27:b6:4b:8a 3245976257 -9381594085 32.459763 -93.815941   
    02:cb:7a:c2:d1:42 3245947265 -9381558227 32.459473 -93.815582   
    02:cb:7a:c2:d1:43 3245948028 -9381558227 32.459480 -93.815582   
    02:cb:7a:c2:d1:45 3245947265 -9381559753 32.459473 -93.815598   
    36:e6:e6:86:cd:1c 3245981216 -9381570434 32.459812 -93.815704   
    3a:9c:27:b6:4b:8a 3245977020 -9381596374 32.459770 -93.815964   
    5a:9c:27:b6:4b:8a 3245976257 -9381596374 32.459763 -93.815964   
    8c:85:80:e4:35:dd 3245977783 -9381558990 32.459778 -93.815590   
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    8c:0f:6f:d3:3b:68 3245903778 -9381518554 32.459038 -93.815186   
    8e:76:3f:d4:13:8d 3245978164 -9381594085 32.459782 -93.815941   
    94:a6:7e:31:02:35 3245890045 -9381510162 32.458900 -93.815102   
    9a:0f:6f:21:c8:80 3245982742 -9381554412 32.459827 -93.815544   
    9a:0f:6f:d3:3b:68 3245905303 -9381518554 32.459053 -93.815186   
      
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