XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-10, alt.comp.microsoft.windows, alt.c   
   mp.os.windows-11   
   From: marianjones@helpfulpeople.com   
      
   Char Jackson wrote:   
   > On Tue, 23 Dec 2025 10:00:36 -0000 (UTC), Chris    
   > wrote:   
   >   
   >>Char Jackson  wrote:   
   >>> On Mon, 22 Dec 2025 18:00:14 +0000, Andy Burns    
   >>> wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> Marian wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> I (can) have every access point location   
   >>>>> in the world (over 2 billion) if I felt like getting it (and storing it).   
   >>>>   
   >>>> But which of those 2 billion belong to me?   
   >>>   
   >>> Well, *you* know which it is, and ve haf vays of making you talk, so...   
   >>   
   >>Do *you* know your MAC address if presented with a list? I certainly don't.   
   >   
   > I actually don't know my WAN MAC, but I know where to find it and could   
   > do so in a few seconds if I needed it. I was just joking with Andy,   
   > though.   
      
   I wonder if everyone realizes the script I posted will give them your MAC &   
   location of your own access points, including your nearest 400 neighbors'.   
       
      
   You get a map (using Fermium) that shows all 400 of them, down to the very   
   corner of the home where the access point is located (as mine show up   
   exactly at the barn, in the stables, at the pool, in my office, etc.).   
      
   So every one of these is in Apple's WPS database with their GPS location   
       
      
   I will move one to the location of the Christmas Eve party later today.   
   I'll then watch it move on Apple's WPS database, hopefully by tomorrow.   
      
   It's that easy to track its movement to the exact corner of your home!   
      
   The problem here I'm trying to resolve will protect the privacy of hundreds   
   of millions of owners who opted out correctly from Apple's WPS database,   
   and yet, Apple has decided not to respect any of their privacy wishes.   
      
   What Apple is doing is lying about privacy in a way that is reprehensible.   
      
   What Apple is doing is claiming they care about privacy, but clearly Apple   
   is doing what is clearly the antithesis of privacy (read the research).   
      
   Apple "says" they care about privacy.   
   Apple is lying.   
      
   What Apple is doing (by not honoring their own privacy policy) is the   
   antithesis of privacy. It's legally, morally & ethically reprehensible.   
      
   Which is easy to prove.   
   a. Only Apple does this   
   b. Not Google   
   c. Not Mozilla   
      
   Only Apple.   
   Nobody else.   
      
   Just Apple.   
   Think about that fact.   
      
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