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   Marian to All   
   Re: Help! How do we get Apple to care ab   
   26 Dec 25 13:36:57   
   
   XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-10, comp.mobile.android   
   From: marianjones@helpfulpeople.com   
      
   > Any ideas to get Apple to do what they say they do when it comes to   
   > supporting consumer, corporate and government privacy?   
      
   I need to build isolated Wi-Fi environments whose only purpose is to   
   broadcast (or hide) SSIDs by following Apple's own published legally   
   binding privacy rules so we can observe how Apple's WPS system behaves.   
      
   I have a friend at Google in the Silicon Valley who is willing to help   
   prove what Apple is doing using a simple test using 3 old spare routers.   
      
   How does this look for a checklist to set up those routers for the test?   
      
   APPLE WPS / SSID PRIVACY TEST   
   ASCII CONFIGURATION CHECKLIST   
   ----------------------------------------------------------------------   
      
   GENERAL SETTINGS FOR ALL THREE ROUTERS   
     [ ] Set to "AP" mode (not router, not gateway)   
     [ ] Disable WAN connection   
     [ ] Disable DHCP server   
     [ ] Disable DNSMasq   
     [ ] Disable DHCP-Authoritative   
     [ ] Disable Local DNS   
     [ ] Set Gateway to 192.168.1.1   
     [ ] Set Local DNS to 192.168.1.1   
     [ ] WPA2-Personal, AES/CCMP only   
     [ ] Channel width: 20 MHz   
     [ ] Save (not Apply) after each section   
     [ ] Apply once at the end   
      
   ----------------------------------------------------------------------   
      
   ROUTER 1: BROADCAST / PUBLIC   
     Router name: broadcast-public   
     Hardware: WRT54G v5 (Linksys)   
     Firmware: Stock Linksys v1.02.8   
     IP address: 192.168.1.128 (Macintosh 128K was the first Macintosh)   
     SSID: AppleWPS.broadcast.public   
     Channel: 1   
     DHCP: Disabled   
     Notes: Baseline consumer router, no _nomap   
      
   ----------------------------------------------------------------------   
      
   ROUTER 2: BROADCAST / PRIVATE / NOMAP   
     Router name: broadcast-private-nomap   
     Hardware: WRT54G v8.1 (Linksys)   
     Firmware: DD-WRT v24 RC-7 (03/19/08) micro   
     IP address: 192.168.1.129   
     SSID: AppleWPS.broadcast.private_nomap   
     Channel: 6   
     DHCP: Disabled   
     Notes: Broadcast SSID, opted out via _nomap   
      
   ----------------------------------------------------------------------   
      
   ROUTER 3: HIDDEN / PRIVATE / NOMAP   
     Router name: hidden-private-nomap   
     Hardware: WNR834B v2 (Netgear)   
     Firmware: DD-WRT v3.0-r51937 mini (03/05/23)   
     IP address: 192.168.1.130   
     SSID: AppleWPS.hidden.private_nomap   
     Channel: 11   
     DHCP: Disabled   
     Notes: Hidden SSID, opted out via _nomap   
      
   ----------------------------------------------------------------------   
      
   POST-CONFIGURATION TEST STEPS   
     [ ] Verify all 3 APs appear in a Wi-Fi scan (hidden one as "hidden")   
     [ ] Verify channels 1, 6, 11 are correct   
     [ ] Verify no router is issuing DHCP leases   
     [ ] Verify each AP responds to ping at its static IP   
     [ ] Move APs to a new location   
     [ ] Wait for Apple devices in the area to upload Wi-Fi scans   
     [ ] Query Apple's location database (via any Apple device)   
     [ ] Observe that all three APs appear at the new location   
     [ ] Observe that _nomap did not prevent tracking   
     [ ] Document timestamps and movement history   
      
   ----------------------------------------------------------------------   
   When I leave the routers in one location, and then move to the next   
   location, I expect the following based on my prior tests of Apple's WPS.   
      
   EXPECTED OUTCOME   
     Apple's WPS will not track:   
       - broadcast.private_nomap   
     But Apple's WPS will forever track:   
       - broadcast.public   
       - hidden.private_nomap   
      
     Even though Apple claims:   
       "_nomap prevents inclusion in Apple's crowd-sourced location database."   
      
   ----------------------------------------------------------------------   
   How does this look for a checklist to set up the 3 old spare routers   
   to prove how Apple's WPS is poorly designed as per what independent   
   security researchers have explained in the recently cited references?   
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