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   Marian to Marian   
   Re: Help! How do we get Apple to care ab   
   26 Dec 25 13:59:18   
   
   XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-10, comp.mobile.android   
   From: marianjones@helpfulpeople.com   
      
   Marian wrote:   
   > How does this look for a checklist to set up the 3 old spare routers   
   > to prove how Apple's WPS is poorly designed as per what independent   
   > security researchers have explained in the recently cited references?   
      
   OK. I ran into 32-character SSID limitations, and DD-WRT had issues   
   with dashes in router names, but how's this setup look for the test?   
      
   TEST PLAN: Apple WPS / SSID Privacy / _nomap Behavior   
   ----------------------------------------------------------------------   
      
   Each AP will be set up to test proper opt-out directives Apple publishes:   
     https://support.apple.com/en-us/102515   
      "The owner of a Wi-Fi access point can opt it out of   
       Apple's Location Services -- which prevents its location   
       from being sent to Apple to include in Apple's crowd-sourced   
       location database -- by changing the access point's SSID (name)   
       to end with '_nomap.' For example, 'Access_Point' would be   
       changed to 'Access_Point_nomap.'"   
      
   Goal:   
     Demonstrate that anyone in the world can see when and where   
     these APs move, even when opted out, and that Apple does not   
     follow its own published privacy policy.   
      
   ----------------------------------------------------------------------   
   SSID STRUCTURE   
   ----------------------------------------------------------------------   
      
   SSID format (fits 32-char limit):   
     ..[_nomap]   
      
   ----------------------------------------------------------------------   
   IP ADDRESSES & SSID's befitting of the character limitations:   
   ----------------------------------------------------------------------   
      
     192.168.1.128 SSID: AppleWPS.broadcast.public   
     192.168.1.129 SSID: AppleWPS.broadcast.private_nomap   
     192.168.1.130 SSID: AppleWPS.hidden.private_nomap   
      
   ----------------------------------------------------------------------   
   CHANNEL PLAN (non-overlapping)   
   ----------------------------------------------------------------------   
      
     Channel 1  -> Broadcast / Public   
     Channel 6  -> Broadcast / Private / nomap   
     Channel 11 -> Hidden / Private / nomap   
      
   ----------------------------------------------------------------------   
   HARDWARE AND FIRMWARE   
   ----------------------------------------------------------------------   
      
   WRT54G v5 (Linksys)     -> Stock Linksys v1.02.8   
   WRT54G v8.1 (Linksys)   -> DD-WRT v24 RC-7 (03/19/08) micro   
   WNR834B v2 (Netgear)    -> DD-WRT v3.0-r51937 mini (03/05/23)   
      
   Most public AP uses stock firmware.   
   Most private/hidden AP uses newest firmware.   
      
   ----------------------------------------------------------------------   
   ROUTER NAMES (ASCII-safe, no dashes)   
   ----------------------------------------------------------------------   
      
     Router name: broadcast-public   
     Router name: broadcast-private-nomap   
     Router name: hidden-private-nomap   
      
   ----------------------------------------------------------------------   
   FINAL CONFIGURATIONS (CORRECTED)   
   ----------------------------------------------------------------------   
      
   Broadcast / Public (baseline consumer router)   
     Router name: broadcast-public   
     IP: 192.168.1.128   
     SSID: AppleWPS.broadcast.public   
     Mode: plain AP   
     Test: Broadcast SSID, no _nomap, no DHCP   
     Hardware: WRT54G v5 (Linksys)   
     Firmware: Stock Linksys v1.02.8   
     Wireless Network Mode: Mixed   
     Channel: 1 - 2.412GHz (20MHz)   
     Security Mode: WPA2 Personal   
     WPA Algorithms: CCMP-128 (AES)   
     WAN Connection Type: Disabled   
     Local IP Address: 192.168.1.128/24   
     Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0   
     Gateway: 192.168.1.1   
     Local DNS: 192.168.1.1   
     DHCP Server: Disable   
     DNSMasq: Disable   
     DHCP-Authoritative: Disable   
     Local DNS: Disable   
     Backup: 20251226_192.168.1.128_wpstest_wrt54gv5_broadcast-public.cfg   
      
   Broadcast / Private / nomap (public, opted out)   
     Router name: broadcast-private-nomap   
     IP: 192.168.1.129   
     SSID: AppleWPS.broadcast.private_nomap   
     Mode: plain AP   
     Test: Broadcast SSID, _nomap, no DHCP   
     Hardware: WRT54G v8.1 (Linksys)   
     Firmware: DD-WRT v24 RC-7 (03/19/08) micro   
     Wireless Network Mode: Mixed   
     Channel: 6 - 2.437GHz (20MHz)   
     Security Mode: WPA2 Personal   
     WPA Algorithms: CCMP-128 (AES)   
     WAN Connection Type: Disabled   
     Local IP Address: 192.168.1.129/24   
     Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0   
     Gateway: 192.168.1.1   
     Local DNS: 192.168.1.1   
     DHCP Server: Disable   
     DNSMasq: Disable   
     DHCP-Authoritative: Disable   
     Local DNS: Disable   
     Backup: 20251226_192.168.1.129_wpstest_wrt54gv81_broadcast-private-nomap.bin   
      
   Hidden / Private / nomap (hidden, opted out)   
     Router name: hidden-private-nomap   
     IP: 192.168.1.130   
     SSID: AppleWPS.hidden.private_nomap   
     Mode: plain AP   
     Test: Hidden SSID, _nomap, no DHCP   
     Hardware: WNR834B v2 (Netgear)   
     Firmware: DD-WRT v3.0-r51937 mini (03/05/23)   
     Wireless Network Mode: Mixed   
     Channel: 11 - 2.462GHz (20MHz)   
     Security Mode: WPA2 Personal   
     WPA Algorithms: CCMP-128 (AES)   
     WAN Connection Type: Disabled   
     Local IP Address: 192.168.1.130/24   
     Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0   
     Gateway: 192.168.1.1   
     Local DNS: 192.168.1.1   
     DHCP Server: Disable   
     DNSMasq: Disable   
     DHCP-Authoritative: Disable   
     Local DNS: Disable   
     Backup: 20251226_192.168.1.130_wpstest_wnr834b2_hidden-private-nomap.bin   
      
   I'm moving forward with the setup as the Google employee will only   
   be home later today so I'm setting up all 3 routers as we type.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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