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|    Re: Help! How do we get Apple to care ab    |
|    26 Dec 25 16:14:54    |
      XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-10, comp.mobile.android       From: marianjones@helpfulpeople.com              Marian wrote:       > Now I'll set up the middle router test.              Drat. I found another inconsistency we need to overcome by design.              Router 1 (broadcast-public) was intentionally left in Mixed mode because it       is meant to behave like a normal consumer router. Mixed mode reflects       typical real-world defaults and ensures Apple's WPS treats it as an       ordinary, indexable access point.              But router 2 is set to G-only.        This avoids DD-WRT's 802.11n elements (eliminating mixed-mode quirks).        And it provides for more predictable beacon frames.        Plus, it reduces RF noise by minimizing the RF signature.        And, it ensures consistent behavior for the privacy test.        This distinction is intentional and part of the experimental design.              Router 3 is a much newer router (relatively speaking), so it's set to mixed       mode like router one was set. So, in summary, the mode settings will be:        Router 1 (broadcast-public) = Mixed        Router 2 (broadcast-private-nomap) = G-Only        Router 3 (hidden-private-nomap) = Mixed              This combination is intentional and based on the hardware       but the settings also take into account our test goals.              1. Router 1 stays in Mixed mode        It is the "normal consumer router" baseline.        Mixed mode matches real-world defaults.        Apple WPS should treat it as a standard, indexable AP.        This gives you a clean reference point for comparison.              2. Router 2 is set to G-Only        It is a WRT54G v8.1, which is 802.11g hardware anyway.        DD-WRT micro behaves more predictably in G-Only mode.        Mixed mode on this old hardware can introduce quirks.        G-Only produces cleaner, simpler beacon frames.        It reduces RF variability and noise.        It ensures consistent behavior for the "broadcast + _nomap" test case.              3. Router 3 stays in Mixed mode        It is an 802.11n-capable router (WNR834B v2).        Setting it to G-Only would disable 802.11n features entirely.        That would distort the hidden SSID test.        Apple WPS fingerprints N-capable APs differently.        We want Router 3 to behave like a normal hidden SSID AP,        not a crippled or downgraded one.        Mixed mode preserves the correct beacon structure for this hardware.              Summary:        Router 1 = baseline, normal consumer behavior.        Router 2 = controlled, simplified G-only for the _nomap broadcast test.        Router 3 = normal mixed-mode behavior for the hidden SSID test.              This setup gives us three distinct, meaningful test cases without       introducing artificial distortions from forcing the wrong wireless mode       on the wrong hardware.              Broadcast / Public (baseline consumer router)        Router name: broadcast-public        IP: 192.168.1.128        SSID: AppleWPS.broadcast.public        Mode: plain AP        Test: Broadcast SSID, no _nomap, no DHCP        Hardware: WRT54G v5 (Linksys)        Firmware: Stock Linksys v1.02.8        Wireless Network Mode: Mixed        Channel: 1 - 2.412GHz (20MHz)        Security Mode: WPA2 Personal        WPA Algorithms: CCMP-128 (AES)        WAN Connection Type: Automatic Configuration - DHCP        Local IP Address: 192.168.1.128/24        Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0        Gateway: 192.168.1.1        Local DNS: 192.168.1.1        DHCP Server: Disable        DNSMasq: Disable        DHCP-Authoritative: Disable        Local DNS: Disable        Backup: 20251226_192.168.1.128_wpstest_wrt54gv5_broadcast-public.bin              Broadcast / Private / nomap (public, opted out)        Router name: broadcast-private-nomap        IP: 192.168.1.129        SSID: AppleWPS.broadcast.private_nomap        Mode: plain AP        Test: Broadcast SSID, _nomap, no DHCP        Hardware: WRT54G v8.1 (Linksys)        Firmware: DD-WRT v24 RC-7 (03/19/08) micro        Wireless Network Mode: G-Only        Channel: 6 - 2.437GHz (20MHz)        Security Mode: WPA2 Personal        WPA Algorithms: CCMP-128 (AES)        WAN Connection Type: Disabled        Local IP Address: 192.168.1.129/24        Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0        Gateway: 192.168.1.1        Local DNS: 192.168.1.1        DHCP Server: Disable        DNSMasq: Disable        DHCP-Authoritative: Disable        Local DNS: Disable        Backup:       20251226_192.168.1.129_wpstest_wrt54gv81_broadcast-private-nomap.bin              Hidden / Private / nomap (hidden, opted out)        Router name: hidden-private-nomap        IP: 192.168.1.130        SSID: AppleWPS.hidden.private_nomap        Mode: plain AP        Test: Hidden SSID, _nomap, no DHCP        Hardware: WNR834B v2 (Netgear)        Firmware: DD-WRT v3.0-r51937 mini (03/05/23)        Wireless Network Mode: Mixed        Channel: 11 - 2.462GHz (20MHz)        Security Mode: WPA2 Personal        WPA Algorithms: CCMP-128 (AES)        WAN Connection Type: Disabled        Local IP Address: 192.168.1.130/24        Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0        Gateway: 192.168.1.1        Local DNS: 192.168.1.1        DHCP Server: Disable        DNSMasq: Disable        DHCP-Authoritative: Disable        Local DNS: Disable        Backup: 20251226_192.168.1.130_wpstest_wnr834b2_hidden-private-nomap.bin              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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