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|    Re: Help! How do we get Apple to care ab    |
|    26 Dec 25 16:27:28    |
      XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-10, comp.mobile.android       From: marianjones@helpfulpeople.com              Marian wrote:       > This combination is intentional and based on the hardware       > but the settings also take into account our test goals.              Proposed (WIP) APPLE WPS TEST PLAN       ----------------------------------              GOAL:        Determine how Apple's WPS database treats:        1. A normal broadcast SSID (Router 1)        2. A broadcast SSID with _nomap (Router 2)        3. A hidden SSID with _nomap (Router 3)               Specifically:        Does Apple index them?        How long does it take Apple to index them?        Does Apple retain them after relocation?        Does Apple treat _nomap consistently?              TEST LOCATIONS:        Location A = Friend's house in Palo Alto        Location B = A second test site in Cupertino              ROUTERS:        Router 1 = broadcast-public (Mixed)        Router 2 = broadcast-private-nomap (G-Only)        Router 3 = hidden-private-nomap (Mixed)              TEST SEQUENCE OVERVIEW:        Phase 1: Deploy all routers at Location A        Phase 2: Leave them running for a fixed time window        Phase 3: Query Apple WPS database daily        Phase 4: Move all routers to Location B        Phase 5: Leave them running again        Phase 6: Query Apple WPS database daily        Phase 7: Compare entries from both locations              -----------------------------------------------       PHASE 1: DEPLOY AT LOCATION A       -----------------------------------------------       1. Power on all three routers.       2. Verify:        AP 1 visible as broadcast-public        AP 2 visible as broadcast-private_nomap        AP 3 hidden (SSID not broadcast)       3. Confirm channels:        Router 1 = 1        Router 2 = 6        Router 3 = 11       4. Confirm no DHCP servers active on any router.       5. Confirm all three respond to ping:        192.168.1.128        192.168.1.129        192.168.1.130       6. Record the exact start time.              -----------------------------------------------       PHASE 2: WAITING PERIOD AT LOCATION A       -----------------------------------------------       1. Leave routers running for (I don't know how long yet) days.        Recommended minimum: 3 days        Ideal: 5 to 7 days       2. I will not reboot or reconfigure routers.       3. I will not move them or change orientation.              -----------------------------------------------       PHASE 3: DAILY APPLE WPS QUERIES (LOCATION A)       -----------------------------------------------       Each day, record:        A. Does AP 1 appear in WPS?        B. Does AP 2 appear in WPS?        C. Does AP 3 appear in WPS?        D. What coordinates does Apple report?        E. What confidence or accuracy radius?        F. Does Apple drop any entries?              -----------------------------------------------       PHASE 4: MOVE TO LOCATION B       -----------------------------------------------       1. Power off all three routers.       2. Transport them to Location B.       3. Power them on in the same order:        Router 1 first        Router 2 second        Router 3 third       4. Verify:        AP 1 visible        AP 2 visible        AP 3 hidden       5. Confirm channels again:        1 / 6 / 11       6. Record the exact relocation time.              -----------------------------------------------       PHASE 5: WAITING PERIOD AT LOCATION B       -----------------------------------------------       1. Leave routers running for ? days.        Recommended minimum: 3 days        Ideal: 5 to 7 days       2. I will not reboot or reconfigure routers.              -----------------------------------------------       PHASE 6: DAILY APPLE WPS QUERIES (LOCATION B)       -----------------------------------------------       Each day, record:        A. Does Apple create new entries?        B. Does Apple update the old entries?        C. Does Apple merge Location A and B?        D. Does Apple drop Location A?        E. Does Apple treat _nomap differently?        F. Does Apple treat hidden SSID differently?              -----------------------------------------------       PHASE 7: FINAL ANALYSIS       -----------------------------------------------       Compare:        1. Router 1 behavior across both locations        2. Router 2 behavior across both locations        3. Router 3 behavior across both locations        4. Whether _nomap suppressed indexing        5. Whether hidden SSID suppressed indexing        6. Whether Apple retained stale coordinates        7. Whether Apple merged or split entries        8. Whether Apple respected relocation timing              EXPECTED OUTCOMES (HYPOTHESES):        Router 1:        Should appear at both locations.        Should update location after relocation.               Router 2:        May appear at Location A.        May or may not update at Location B.        Apple may treat _nomap inconsistently.               Router 3:        May not appear at all.        If it appears, it may be unstable or delayed.        Hidden SSID behavior is the key unknown.              DATA TO RECORD:        Date        Time        Router ID        SSID (if visible)        Apple WPS coordinates        Accuracy radius        Confidence        Whether entry is new or updated        Notes              END OF (proposed, WIP) TEST PLAN              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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