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   Message 90,258 of 90,439   
   Street to Jimmy Logan   
   Re: Giving up   
   13 Sep 25 21:09:49   
   
   From: street@shellcrash.com   
      
   On 9/12/25 4:24 AM, Jimmy Logan wrote:   
   >On 2025-09-12, Street  wrote:   
   >> On 9/10/25 7:54 AM, Jimmy Logan wrote:   
   >>>On 2025-09-10, street  wrote:   
   >>>> Realize everything you do is subconscious, and not under your control.   
   >>>>  Except for observation and deliberate thought. Stop and ask yourself what   
   >>>>  is consciousness, and if there is free will.   
   >>>   
   >>>I think most of things are "automated" in the mind, and it keeps changing   
   >>>over time by observation and deliberate thought. The concept of "free   
   >>>will" does not take these "automations" in account   
   >>>which needs some time to change.   
   >>   
   >> The extent of the power of our free will could also be a question worth   
   >>  asking.   
   >>   
   >   
   >The "free will" is an abstraction over many many things, and   
   >abstractions are like models where "Every model is wrong, but some of   
   >them are useful".   
   >   
   >Can you give me an example,   
   >what you or your friend's friend's friend is struggling with?   
   >   
      
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