From: punk.book8853@fastmail.com   
      
   On 2025-09-13, Street  wrote:   
   > On 9/12/25 4:24 AM, Jimmy Logan wrote:   
   >>On 2025-09-12, Street  wrote:   
   >>> On 9/10/25 7:54 AM, Jimmy Logan wrote:   
   >>>>On 2025-09-10, street  wrote:   
   >>>>> Realize everything you do is subconscious, and not under your control.   
   >>>>>  Except for observation and deliberate thought. Stop and ask yourself   
   what   
   >>>>>  is consciousness, and if there is free will.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>I think most of things are "automated" in the mind, and it keeps changing   
   >>>>over time by observation and deliberate thought. The concept of "free   
   >>>>will" does not take these "automations" in account   
   >>>>which needs some time to change.   
   >>>   
   >>> The extent of the power of our free will could also be a question worth   
   >>>  asking.   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >>The "free will" is an abstraction over many many things, and   
   >>abstractions are like models where "Every model is wrong, but some of   
   >>them are useful".   
   >>   
   >>Can you give me an example,   
   >>what you or your friend's friend's friend is struggling with?   
   >>   
   >   
   > Money at the moment   
   >   
      
   I don't see a straightforward connection in between the "free will"   
   and "money" problem, but it's most likely because of   
   my 0 knowledge/context about your situation and mindset, and all the   
   things lead into this situation.   
      
   Generally speaking, my approach would be to check the path; like, if you   
   want to go to the park, and you turn left, turn right, go straight, and   
   you still can't see the park, but you know other people are there, maybe   
   you can ask them, how to get there. Unfortunately, those people, who   
   wants to help, to have any chance to figure out where did you took   
   the wrong turn, have to know where do you live and all the turns you made,   
   like google maps, if it doesn't know where are you, where do you want to   
   go, and which path you take, it can't navigate.   
      
   Also, a common trap is to - for some reason - being very confident in a   
   particular "left turn", so if you took a path, did not reach the   
   destination, but unable to challenge the decision(s) which did not   
   lead to where you wanted to be, well, you can still hope that   
   there's another park, or the desert.   
      
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