From: T@invalid.invalid   
      
   On 06/13/2015 12:32 AM, foxidrive wrote:   
   > On 13/06/2015 16:42, T wrote:   
   >>> Without knowing exactly what you are doing - nobody can give you advice   
   >>> that is going to be reliable in your situation.   
   >>   
   >> I was trying to send data down a questionable cable and see if   
   >> it actually came back.  I placed a loop back at the end of the cable.   
   >   
   > If I were pedantic I would point out that a multimeter can scope out the   
   > conductors in a cable, as you strain the connectors.   
   >   
   > Your description doesn't tell us if the cable is 10 cm long or 3   
   > kilometres - see what I mean?   
   >   
   > If you're worried about the middle parts of the cable - then use a   
   > time-domain reflectometer.   
   >   
   >   
   > I'm only so contrary because people ask for free help and don't tell you   
   > about the task, and so you guess what they want.   
   > They come back to say it doesn't work - and the thread gets longer and   
   > longer as they continue to not tell you about all the aspects of the task.   
   >   
   > When batch scripting was a hobbyist topic and was so much more difficult   
   > to do tasks, the respect between people was very high, and it was a very   
   > rewarding hobby.   
   >   
   > Fast forward to modern days and people want you to solve their problem   
   > with bugger all information, or do their jobs for them, and when you ask   
   > for details they are suddenly experts about how much information is   
   > needed to solve the task - that they have no idea how to solve themselves.   
   >   
   > QED   
   >   
   >   
      
   Hi Foxidrive,   
      
   You made the mistake of trying to solve a larger problem that   
   I did not request information about.  You made this mistake because   
   you are I nice guy with a lot of knowledge and you jumped in to   
   help me.  You don't even know me and you wanted to help anyway.   
   That was not lost on me.   
      
   My actual problem was trying to figure out the syntax of "xxx < com1".   
   I was/am frustrated as I know I have done this before and just forgot.   
      
   Thank you for helping me with this.   
      
   -T   
      
   The cable and the new card are working fine.  I tested it by hooking   
   it to a led display on a loop back and then hooking it up to the   
   CNC machine.  The customer did not even manage to damage anything   
   by removing the RJ45 cable out of the RJ45 to DB9 adapter and   
   plugging it into his Ethernet port.  (Chuckle)   
      
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