XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-10, alt.comp.os.windows-11   
   From: G6JPG@255soft.uk   
      
   On 2025/9/3 8:41:2, Paul wrote:   
   > On Tue, 9/2/2025 8:25 PM, J. P. Gilliver wrote:   
   >> On 2025/9/3 0:16:4, Paul wrote:   
   >>> On Tue, 9/2/2025 3:55 PM, John B. Smith wrote:   
   >>   
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   >>   
   >>>> Can you tell me a safe way to stop those processes in Taskmaster that   
   >>>> aren't needed without crashing the machine?   
   >>>>   
   >> Ah, a plaintive question which has been around for a Very Long Time, and   
   >> to which no _simple_ answer has ever been given!   
   >>   
   >> []   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>> Microsoft has done a lot already, to optimize things. They have   
   >>> had studies running on machines, to find things they can turn down.   
   >>   
   >> Because of who is saying it I have to believe that, but for anyone who   
   >> has been using the various Windows versions for a lot of years, it's   
   >> very _hard_ to believe: the number of background tasks which anyone with   
   >> less than Paul's (or possibly VanguardLH's, or one other) level of   
   >> knowledge just has to, for practical purposes, _accept_ running, has   
   >> risen significantly with each version, from about 9x on. (I'm not sure   
   >> if 3.1 had any.)   
      
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   > I'm suggesting it isn't particularly practical to get stressed about this.   
      
   Oh, I realised that long ago; basically, that's a flavour of the   
   Kool-aid that we all (OK, most) have just accepted we've got to drink,   
   to remain sane.>   
   > If you're off the grid, you would shop for a low power machine in the   
   > first place, and then most of the work is already done for you.   
   > Like one of those $250 mini-PC that are making the rounds right   
   > now, and have a quad core "6 watt" CPU inside. There are probably   
   > a few tablets that would make good candidates for the same reason.   
      
   I assumed from the subject line (and the original post, I think) that   
   the concern was more with unnecessary processes impacting performance,   
   rather than concerns about power consumption - though of course   
   overheating concerns do remain.   
      
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   > Nouveau for the video driver versus NVidia). On a recent distro,   
   > with the Nouveau driver, in the "top" display I watched as the   
   > desktop rendering used 400% CPU (four railed CPU cores) to replace   
      
   Interesting: does Linux show CPU usage in percentage of one-core usage?   
   I've always assumed that Windows - probably in Task Manager, though I   
   may have seen CPU usage figures elsewhere, can't remember - was showing   
   usage as a percentage of the total CPU capability you have. I don't   
   think I've ever seen above ninetysomething per cent, even on machines   
   with more than one core (do such still exist? IIRR, Windows above 7 - or   
   maybe 8 - won't install on a one-core machine).   
      
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   > You *might* be able to save some power on Windows, by disabling   
   > all the security features. I don't know if I could manage that   
   > on my own, or not. Like the Virtualization Based Security,   
   > maybe just one setting in bcdedit could smother that.   
   >   
   >    Paul   
      
      
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