XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-10, alt.comp.os.windows-11   
   From: nospam@needed.invalid   
      
   On Wed, 9/3/2025 5:06 AM, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:   
   > On Wed, 3 Sep 2025 09:18:24 +0100   
   > "J. P. Gilliver"  wrote:   
   >   
   >> On 2025/9/3 8:41:2, Paul wrote:   
   >>> On Tue, 9/2/2025 8:25 PM, J. P. Gilliver wrote:   
   >>>> On 2025/9/3 0:16:4, Paul wrote:   
   >>>>> On Tue, 9/2/2025 3:55 PM, John B. Smith wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>> []   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>> Can you tell me a safe way to stop those processes in Taskmaster that   
   >>>>>> aren't needed without crashing the machine?   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>> Ah, a plaintive question which has been around for a Very Long Time, and   
   >>>> to which no _simple_ answer has ever been given!   
   >>>>   
   >>>> []   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> Microsoft has done a lot already, to optimize things. They have   
   >>>>> had studies running on machines, to find things they can turn down.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Because of who is saying it I have to believe that, but for anyone who   
   >>>> has been using the various Windows versions for a lot of years, it's   
   >>>> very _hard_ to believe: the number of background tasks which anyone with   
   >>>> less than Paul's (or possibly VanguardLH's, or one other) level of   
   >>>> knowledge just has to, for practical purposes, _accept_ running, has   
   >>>> risen significantly with each version, from about 9x on. (I'm not sure   
   >>>> if 3.1 had any.)   
   >>   
   > My [XP] box:   
   >   
   > Image Name                   PID Session Name     Session#    Mem Usage   
   > ========================= ====== ================ ======== ============   
   > System Idle Process            0                         0         16 K   
   > System                         4                         0         36 K   
   > smss.exe                     728                         0         48 K   
   > csrss.exe                    784                         0      2,852 K   
   > winlogon.exe                 808                         0      1,044 K   
   > services.exe                 852                         0      1,924 K   
   > lsass.exe                    864                         0      1,300 K   
   > svchost.exe                 1020                         0      1,268 K   
   > svchost.exe                 1068                         0      1,600 K   
   > svchost.exe                 1264                         0      9,404 K   
   > explorer.exe                1568                         0     34,916 K   
   > PERSFW.exe                  1644                         0        572 K   
   > svchost.exe                 1696                         0      2,176 K   
   > sylpheed.exe                1760                         0      4,040 K   
   > wmiprvse.exe                1984                         0      5,060 K   
   > cmd.exe                     2236                         0      2,892 K   
   > ntvdm.exe                    984                         0      2,392 K   
   > wmiprvse.exe                3904                         0      5,980 K   
   > tasklist.exe                2872                         0      4,408 K   
   >   
   > []   
   >   
   > sylpheed.exe because I'm looking at usenet right now   
   > wmiprvse snuck in whilst I was looking,   
   > cmd.exe and ntvdm.exe are because I ran tasklist in a command box,   
   > tasklist.exe is because it is reporting on itself!   
   >   
   > but otherwise it's as minimal as I can get it.   
   >   
      
   But if John is using a modern game with an anticheat, some of those games   
   require Secure Boot. And then you have the baggage of the newer OS.   
      
      Paul   
      
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