From: bogul@nospambog.net   
      
   Steve Daniels  wrote in   
   news:kvon819um8cgosn45nhgi5q4djqskvt78t@4ax.com:   
      
   > On 18 May 2005 14:41:06 GMT, against all advice, something   
   > compelled bogul , to say:   
   >   
   >>Steve Daniels  wrote in   
   >>news:874l81t6ahdvjeksipa305e5d95u8s69c8@4ax.com:   
   >>   
   >>> On Sat, 14 May 2005 10:31:41 -0500, against all advice, something   
   >>> compelled Larry Huntley , to say:   
   >>>   
   >>>>Knowleman stepped up to the podium, tapped the forlorn-looking SM57,   
   >>>>asked "Is this thing on?" and, in alt.music.bluegrass, message   
   >>>>news:c04ca9e8.0502161624.75afe9b1@posting.google.com, prounounced:   
   >>>   
   >>> I can't find the original article in my news spool, so am   
   >>> piggybacking onto Larry's post.   
   >>>   
   >>>    
      
   No music should ever be classified politically.   
      
   >>>   
   >>>>> The reason for this is because we regard ourselves as relatively   
   >>>>> well informed Europeans and as such, have some serious concerns   
   >>>>> about the culture within the american states with which bluegrass   
   >>>>> is naturally associated. We dislike George Bush and his politics   
   >>>>> we dislike racism   
   >>>>> and we dislike religious fundamentalism in any form, whether it be   
   >>>>> islamic from the middle east or evangelical christian from the   
   >>>>> central/southern states of the USA. We believe all of these things   
   >>>>> are bad news for the planet and for the future of our kids.   
   >>>   
   >>> Folk music in general, and bluegrass in particular are genres   
   >>> attractive to the most liberal of our citizens.  Not to say that   
   >>> there are no Christian conservative people that like it, but in   
   >>> general folkies are pretty liberal.   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >>Huh? Upon what are you basing this? Unless you have some study in hand   
   >>or some hard numbers this this is simply blind speculation on your   
   >>part.   
   >   
   > I'm basing it on my life experience.  Perhaps you've confused a   
   > usenet post with an academic thesis, where studies and proofs are   
   > required.   
   >   
      
   No. They aren't required. But you did state, "in general folkies are   
   pretty liberal" with absolutely nothing but your personal experience to   
   back it up. So, you should have stated this as an opinion.   
      
   >>This is playing into the original posters hand and pandering to them   
   >>on a point where they need to examine their motives.   
   >   
   > Bullshit.   
   >   
      
   No. The original poster was looking for some type of feedback regarding   
   the political and religous posture of bluegrass music as a basis upon   
   which they were to decide whether or not to participate in it. I   
   completely challenge that as any basis upon which to decide whether or   
   not to listen to a musical form. It may influence your artist choices,   
   but not your participation in the entire scene.   
      
   You tried to "assure" them that "folkies" are good old liberals like   
   them. I.E. You fed them a line which you yourself admit you have only   
   your experiences as proof.   
      
      
   >>If you appriciate an art form then it's a deeply personal experience.   
   >>But, if you feel the need to some how "fit in" with the other fans in   
   >>order to enjoy it then I'm sorry my friend... you're not a fan...   
   >>you're a sheep. If you listen to folk music because you view it as   
   >>"liberal" then you're not a folk music fan, you're just a "liberal"   
   >>seeking out validation.   
   >   
   > *I* don't listen to it with any kind of political meaning   
   > whatever.  The Ernest Europeans are doing this, case you didn't   
   > pick up on it.   
   >   
      
   You mistook my comments as a direct attack on you. I should have been   
   more clear that I was generalizing. I was speaking more to the original   
   poster. Since I don't know you I could hardly comment on why you listen.   
   My appologies.   
      
      
   >>If you're at an art gallery and you see an awesome painting... it   
   >>touches you. But... out of the corner of your eye you see a KKK member   
   >>likes it too... do you decide that you can no longer appriciate it   
   >>because he does? If you do ... again ... a sheep   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>> But you know what?  If you're going to reject a form of music   
   >>> that you've grown to appreciate because you might not like some   
   >>> of the people (whom you've never met, by the by) that also like   
   >>> it, then give it up.  Quit listening.  You'll hurt no one, and   
   >>> that precious Self Righteous Feeling you get by denying yourself   
   >>> something you've come to enjoy will be so worth it.   
   >>   
   >>(Steve... if you were being sarcastic then I appologise... I'm taking   
   >>you literally)   
   >>   
   >>Or... You could grow up and enjoy the things in your life free and   
   >>clear of the desire to fit in or be accepted and punt the   
   >>self-righteousness.   
   >   
   > Back in grade school we had this thing called Reading for   
   > Comprehension.  Perhaps you were absent that day.   
   >   
      
   Ignoring the snide little dig. I did state that I was commenting on your   
   statement as literal and added a pre-appology if I was wrong. To you it   
   might seem to be obvious... but again... I don't know you.   
      
   I was simply frustrated by folks who seek out a peer group in order to   
   enjoy something(again... not you).   
      
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