From: AM@highwire.net   
      
   "Lane Gray, Czar Castic"  wrote in message   
   news:opsr28iogl8955ol@stylgar...   
   > On Wed, 8 Jun 2005 13:20:09 -0600, AM  wrote:   
   >   
   >> "Lane Gray, Czar Castic"  wrote in message   
   >> news:opsr140mwv8955ol@stylgar...   
   >>> On Wed, 8 Jun 2005 08:30:05 -0600, AM  wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> What a pity.  The group gets a new troll, and he's not even fun.  And   
   >>>>> won't address points raised at him.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> You mean I will not allow myself to be distracted by your tactical   
   >>>> obfuscation.   
   >>>>   
   >>> No.  I mean that you've refused to answer whether you think that   
   >>> whatever you contribute should sound like it actually belongs in the   
   >>> music, like the use of polyrhythms in that long E-jam section of OBS   
   >>> (hell, I suspect you'd probably go for a Sonny Stitt-inspired flurry of   
   >>> triplets as a  fill in "Faded Love).   
   >>   
   >> You continue to assume facts not in evidence.  I just don't think there's   
   >> anything at all wrong with music sounding fresh and new and unlike   
   >> anything one has ever heard before (as this is the very hallmark of   
   >> *great* music) and, in fact, what I vastly prefer.   
   >>   
   > But if it doesn't mesh well with the music currently getting played (at   
   > least by the majority of those in attendance - the guitar player's lengthy   
   > excursion into an 11/8 polyrhythm against 4/4 in Orange Blossom Special   
   > would certainly have worked in a jazz club: instead he chose to do it once   
   > in a honkytonk where all those on the dance floor were busy doing a   
   > two-step and the second time when we played at the center of Landover Mall   
   > outside of Washington DC, and we'd had expectations to 'keep it   
   > country.'), then you don't get 'fresh and new', you get "what the hell is   
   > that crap you're playing?!?!?" and rightly so.   
   >   
   >> Music with a sense of adventure - - - if you know what I mean.   
   >>   
   > Yes, I do in fact know what you mean.  Your average open-mic night at   
   > anything other than a jazz club (as far as I know, the 'jam-band' club   
   > doesn't yet exist) isn't there for much of a sense of adventure.   
      
   Basically, your whole doctrine is that "oh yes, everything should be the   
   same insipid, redundant, redneck tripe over and over again - - - unless one   
   should be so fortunate as to find oneself in a venue with open-minded,   
   non-parochial, non-redneck people."   
      
   >>> Which probably explains your habit of choosing polysyllabic latinates   
   >>> when suitable short words exist.  Greater wordsmiths than you have   
   >>> repeatedly pointed out the stylistic shortcomings of that.  Learn to   
   >>> express  yourself better than either Twain or Churchill, and I'll take   
   >>> that back, with an apology (but I've no plans to hold my breath 'til   
   >>> that  happens.   
   >>   
   >> I'm actually not that offended to be "mensch -shunned" in the same   
   >> sentence as Twain and Churchill.   
   >   
   > But both of them would, as you no doubt know, would loudly and clearly   
   > give you a dressing-down for your linguistic style.  Churchill,   
   > especially, loathed the polysyllable, save when one can't avoid them.  And   
   > giving you a mention in the same sentence came about as a way of implying   
   > (too bad you couldn't make the inference) that you, sir, are no Twain or   
   > Churchill.  Twain used the polysyllable freely, but generally he would put   
   > them in the mouths of those who either 'put on airs' or to show their   
   > users as those who knew of the words, but not their meanings.   
      
   So, big words, as well as imaginative, innovative music, make you feel   
   jealous, threatened and insecure.  What I've been saying throughout this   
   thread is that the problem lies with people such as yourself, who are so   
   compulsively egoistic as to imagine they know better what everyone else   
   *should* be playing or saying at any given time, and demonstrate their   
   oblivious narrow-mindednesss through their constant, presumptuous,   
   ego-driven interference in the creative processes of others - - - even in   
   contexts and settings where there could be no conceivable, valid rationale   
   for doing so.   
      
   You have proven my point better than I ever could have without you.   
      
   AM   
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