XPost: rec.music.bluenote, rec.music.makers.guitar.jazz   
   From: jcmartin@sonic.net   
      
   The Enunciator wrote:   
      
   > JC Martin wrote:   
   >   
   >   
   >>>To be entertained is simply to derive pleasure from something.   
   >   
   > Does   
   >   
   >>>the artist derive no pleasure from creating?   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>Not neccessarily.  But that's why you're not an artist.  You couldn't   
   >   
   >   
   >>begin to understand.   
   >>   
   >>-JC   
   >   
   >   
   > According to the definition you had me look up, I am indeed an artist,   
   > as is anyone who "imitates, supplements, alters, or counteracts the   
   > work of nature."   
   >   
   > But that's another point of discussion.   
   >   
   > As for the point here, I can certainly understand an aritst making a   
   > short-term decision to do something that was unpleasant or even   
   > painful, but in the long-run the payoff is some kind of pleasure or   
   > enjoyment - even for the masochist.   
      
      
   I've seen you espouse anti-war rhetoric here summy.  War isn't pleasant   
   and sometimes art touches upon that reality.  For you it seems, an   
   artist should instead merely seek pleasure instead of navigating the   
   dificult web of human nature.  There's truly a contradiction in your   
   logic.  You believe in what is essentialy a very conservative view of art.   
      
   -JC   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)