From: someone@anywheret.net   
      
   "JimD"  wrote in message news:2018042315101363628-email@nowherecom...   
      
   > the magic thing is to try and hold back on cock sure opinions you might   
   > hold dear on subjects outside what you know about ????   
      
   Usually it's all selfishness and arrogance driven...in pursuit of an agenda   
   and Honesty be damned, as usual.   
      
   > how's that for some advice to know it all's ?   
      
   Problem is that they don't care - they want what they want and to hell with   
   everyone else.   
      
   > Like arguing with doctors and auto mechanics .... and well, the sound guy   
   > :-)   
      
   Unfortunately, it's the QUACKS out there who are mostly to blame for such   
   arguing ;)   
      
   > Not a good plan unless you really do know more than they do and are in a   
   > position to actually know what's going on ... in band world that would be   
   > that you could hear the FOH system better than the guy out there actually   
   > listening to it.   
      
   The most I'd be interested in doing about that would be to record the FOH   
   system, listen to it later, and then form an opinion...sort of like my   
   problem at church - I have to hear the recording first in order to know we   
   need a new sound person.   
   But when I'm performing, all I care about is that I can hear everything from   
   everyone, including myself, and worry about other details, like FOH sound,   
   later.   
      
   > Or in my case, when we're red lining the amps, and frying speakers on a   
   > pretty regular basis, perhaps trying to say things aren't loud enough   
   > isn't gonna convince me to crank it up any farther.   
      
   That sounds like some serious mental problems...and past a certain point,   
   it's time to say ENOUGH!!!   
      
   > right.  The thing is, how to convey that wisdom to people who would just   
   > automaticaly make smilie faces on all the graphics ?   
      
   It's easy to hear a speaker going nonlinear i.e. clipping distortion, IF one   
   still has one's hearing!   
      
   > it has 1/3 band or 6 channel ( iirc ) parametrics on each channel and on   
   > each of the outputs.   
      
   I kind of like the 1/3rd octave eq ;)   
      
   > doesn't matter at this point. the band isn't talking to me.   
      
   Their loss.   
      
   > keep your eyes on this space for the upcoming  " autopsy of a band "   
   > series of ranting posts :-)   
      
   That's a cool concept ;)   
   Kind of implies it always was a Dead band ;)   
      
   > seems that backing off the volume just wasn't something they were willing   
   > to do.   
      
   Even though it Needed to be done.   
      
   > I've seen a few of those used. Some by bands ( weren't even close good   
   > enough ) to solo and duo windery acts where they seem to work fine.   
      
   They're marketed to the ignorant as the 'ideal' 'pa'/sound system for small   
   venues...but the JOKE is that small venues don't need much power in the   
   first place, and since the L1 and similar 'systems' don't have much power,   
   it's an easy way to Steal 1000 or so bucks from the Gullible.   
      
   I decided to look around for some specs on the L1, and there's NO listed   
   spec for audio output in Watts RMS - the most I found was up to 112 dB, and   
   not even a distance at which that SPL would measure at that value...a TOTAL   
   SCAM!!!   
   REAL sound equipment manufacturers PROUDLY and PLAINLY list those specs!!!   
   But not Bose-O!   
      
   Eh, whatever.   
      
   Jim   
      
   They work fine if there's no Serious equipment to compare them too, and/or   
   the venue is  so tiny and/or quiet that I could use my Casio CDP-130 digital   
   piano with it's own built-in 8 W amp...things like that!   
      
   Ouisie   
      
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