From: someone@anywheret.net   
      
   "JimD"  wrote in message news:2018052312244373840-email@nowherecom...   
      
   > Was talking to a non musician friend today about our stage volume issue.   
   > Actually, the discussion was about the general topic of people seeing   
   > things differently. As in, at sporting events or car accidents. You can   
   > get some pretty heated disagreements in those situations, between people   
   > who should have all seen the same thing, but insist on details differing.   
      
   Even the four Gospels in the  Bible have small details that differ between   
   the accounts of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John...but the critical details are   
   accounted for the same..   
      
   > General psychobable theory is that the human memory is flawed, and that   
   > witnesses often fill in details rather than actually recount what they   
   > saw.   
      
   Always back to humans again. I'm sure  other creature experience similar   
   situations, which are dependent on the importance of the reason for relating   
   the details.   
      
   > Back to bands. My friend pointed out that what musicians do, what their   
   > product is, is generating emotions. Our goal is to get the audience to   
   > emotionally respond.   
      
   Whatever that means, because not even psychologists can agree of what   
   'emotion' is. The word indicates that it merely means "outward moving".   
      
   > The problem with non pro players / singers is that they become involved in   
   > the emotion. In effect they become the audience rather than the performer.   
      
   That's called Sharing! What's wrong with that?   
      
   > Because of that, they decide that it couldn't be " too loud " because they   
   > are into it .... and so on. I jotted down some of his comments as he spoke   
   > ...   
      
   Too loud is painful for those whose hearing is not already at least   
   moderately Damaged, so when someone like that cranks up, they're being   
   Inconsiderate of others and the Sharing goes right down the toilet!   
      
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   > JC insights on how anatures think ….. " I like it like this. This is the   
   > way, this is emotions. if it’s not loud you’re just not doin’ it right   
   > " ….  ( music’s product is to arouse emotions. when the musicians   
   > themselves are into those emotions,   
      
   Hearing Loss is not an emotion, and neither is Rudeness!!!   
      
   > they lose the fact they they need to  -make -  the music, not get sucked   
   > into it ).   
      
   Can't have the Love Vibe unless the musicians get 'sucked into it'!!!   
      
   > Like an actor who somehow believes they are the part, who become the   
   > people they pretend to be onstage. They lose the detail that it’s pretend.   
   > They have become the audience.   
      
   They're reenacting, and portraying, and Living what they're doing, not just   
   going through the motions like machines - see what happens when you let   
   computers mess up your life - you start becoming more and more like them -   
   Lifeless!!!   
      
   Now if they're selling used cars, or from 'the government' telling you   
   they're there to 'help' you, Then they're pretending, as in LYING ;)   
      
   > He also pointed out, that if just going on stage and turning it up to   
   > whatever suits, why do bands bother with sound men ?  Just let it be a   
   > free for all.   
      
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   Yeah, I've often wondered that myself...but Idiots are always doing silly,   
   Stupid things.   
      
   > And so, yeah, that's the key.  I can't reason with players, try to get   
   > them to perform better technically, if that conflicts with their   
   > imaginary, emotionlly driven view of what they are doing.   
      
   That's because a lot of Them ARE Pretending....because they're Lazy and   
   Pretending is 'easier' than being Serious!   
      
   > It's so simple. How did I miss this for so long.   
      
   Miss what? That it's better to be a Soulless Robot than a Real Living   
   person?   
      
   > Pro's understand it's a stage performance, that it's not real, amatures   
   > don't.   
      
   Jim   
      
   It is a stage performance, and if it's worthy of receiving, then it had   
   Better be Real...because Fake is Lifeless!   
      
   Ouisie   
      
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