From: someone@anywheret.net   
      
   "JimD"  wrote in message news:2018082010424134102-email@nowherecom...   
      
   > Well, that's the whole thing in a nutshell. They don't understand how any   
   > of this works.   
      
   Then they need to stop pretending that they do!   
   They don't understand how hearing loss works either.   
      
   > How do people who don't understand technolody use it successfully ?   
   > That's a big reason iPhones exist, for people who not only don't, but   
   > don't even want to .... know how they work.   
      
   Knowledge is power and to not have it is to be DISempowered !   
      
   > That's fine I probably have techoloogy I don't understand how it works,   
   > maybe, somewhere.   
      
   It's still possible to know enough about it to be careful.   
      
   > Ok, I don't understand wi-fi handshaking. Or IP net routing. See, there's   
   > two things I use and don't really understand.   
      
   There's not all that much to understand and the specifics can be looked up.   
      
   > Now that I think of that, it's not that I don't understand how they work,   
   > it's that they are using man made, propriatory protocals that could just   
   > as easily be something other than what they are. They aren't based on   
   > physical laws of nature as much as what wasn't covered by some existing   
   > patient.   
      
   And therein lies the Danger...of a Conflict of Interest...between you, and   
   the Fascist corporations who design and manufacture the equipment...for   
   THEIR best interests, NOT yours!   
      
   > Back to sound .... yep, my crew doesn't undersand sound propagation at   
   > all. It would be cool if there was some website that could graphically let   
   > them design a pa and then somehow SEE how the sound would disperse.   
      
   > Actually it is possible, my brother had software from his employer that   
   > did just that. It would visually show the sound dispersion and interaction   
   > of pa cabs in large venues. Obviously tools like that exist, or it   
   > wouldn't be possible to do quality large arena size sound installations.   
   > That software even calculated the required time delays of any particular   
   > speaker or array so as to minimize hearable echos in the venue.   
      
   > Not something we have access to. And even if we did, it wouln't solve the   
   > " just crank it to max " mindset.   
      
   I wonder. Perhaps there's something online. I've not been inclined to look   
   so far, but perhaps it might be a good idea, and an interesting one at   
   least...particularly when it comes to comparing real results to computer   
   generated ones.   
      
   > I'm still unpacking. We only used two of our own cabs in WV. Both as stage   
   > " amps ". I ran my rig ( my instruments ) thru two powered Behringer   
   > B110D's ( i think ) on chairs on stage behind us and the venue mic-ed   
   > those.  We sang thru their pa, used their vocal monitors.   
      
   I've often wondered about that term "pa", insomuch as it was originally used   
   for vocal amplifications...not instruments.   
      
   > That's what it does.  Volume creates a certain excitement on its own.   
   > Playing with emotion at reasonable levels takes far more skill.   
      
   That and they're Fooling themselves, but then they're Fools and that's what   
   Fools do.   
      
   > Rested yesterday from the trip.  I managed to unpack most of my gear, set   
   > it back up.  No gigs until saturday, so there's time to rest a bit. I'm   
   > getting a bit old for these whirlwind road gigs. I do wish I'd taken more   
   > pictures.   
      
   Jim   
      
   Whirlwind gigs ;) Interesting concept ;) Maybe even a little exhausting too?   
      
   Ouisie   
      
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