From: someone@anywheret.net   
      
   "JimD"  wrote in message news:2018082721345133490-email@nowherecom...   
      
   > I will check the polarity of the cabs, but really, the phase cancellation   
   > thing explains what's happening to a tee.   
      
   It's worth checking into, but cancellation problems can be caused by   
   anything reflecting too.   
      
   > Went back, looked at the price of the BOSE stick.  Way over my budget.   
      
   I've known Bose-O to always be into gimmicks, with the only exception I know   
   of being their 501 system, well mostly ;)   
      
   > Ok, if that's possible, I'd be ok with it. Unless it's assaulting my ears,   
   > then I'm not.   
      
   If anything, those low frequencies should, if overcranked, be assaulting the   
   rest of your body, particularly in the chest cavity.   
      
   > We aren't either. Not because we don't have the gear, but because I can't   
   > get them to use it.   
      
   What's so difficult getting used to?   
      
   > Two 15's, inside, facing each other. Two ports, on on top front, on on   
   > bottom front.  Very heavy.   
      
   Then they might be the ones I saw, and they are very heavy.   
      
   > He's using the in ears, and making a mess of the stage sound anyway.   
      
   Maybe he has the  IEMs turned down.   
      
   > Yep, too complicated for one person to run   
      
   And since everyone's preference is different from everyone else, it's kind   
   of impossible to run, at least right so everyone is satisfied.   
      
   > They do it on radio ( broadcast ) make the record sound as loud as   
   > possible.   
      
   Loud, of course, but at the expense of quality.   
      
   > In my ( or other guys's band ) you'd be the only one to hear you if you   
   > did that ?   And that's not something I'm proud of.   
      
   Hearing myself is all I care about in such situations. I couldn't care less   
   if the audience can't hear me, just so long as I can.   
   If afterwards, I keep being told that I couldn't be heard, I'd just advise   
   talking to the rest of the band to ask them why they cranked up so much that   
   I couldn't be heard...since that problem is *their* *FAULT*, not mine!!!   
      
   > I know two people who seem unfamiliar with the concept of turning down.   
      
   Right now, I know one, the Malmsteen fan :(   
      
   > Sure, like taking turns speaking. But that isn't what happens with us.   
      
   Singing isn't quite like speaking so I'd prefer a more 'harmonious' approach   
   )   
      
   > I'd let it go because it doesn't really compete with the vocals for "   
   > space ".  Not doing it is because I only have so much time and there is a   
   > lot to do. Have to prioritize.   
      
   You've got both parametric and 1/3 octave band EQ for each channel on that   
   XR18, you could optimize each input so that it doesn't interfere with any of   
   the others - another reason why I want one!   
      
   > think of the balance in percentages then.  Unless the music stops with the   
   > singer sings, the total volume divides up between the band and the singer.   
   > If the singer and the band are at exactly the same volume, then the band   
   > will blurr the singer out.   
      
   Each of the band members will also blur out the other band members, which is   
   why making a sonic 'niche' with EQ is the way to go...for everyone including   
   the singer(s).   
   Otherwise, as is the Tragic case at my church, it degenerates to playing   
   favorites i.e. cranking the singers up, and the musicians down...which   
   Destroys morale - it sure did with me.   
      
   > Maybe in db, the singer would be 3 or 5 db louder than the band.   
      
   That's Shoddy soundwork! A 3 dB increase is approximately equal to Doubling   
   the power for the vocals over the rest of the band - NOT FAIR!!!   
   The problem I'm having in the band I'm in right now is that the guitar   
   player's sounds and my B3 sounds are blurred i.e. Muddied together for lack   
   of frequency range definition...that and he's far TOOOOO Loud! Turning down   
   would help Immensely!!!   
      
   > Don't know what the numbers are, but I do know the singer needs to stand   
   > out.   
      
   EVERYONE in the band needs to stand out, that is, to be clearly and easily   
   heard - but cranking up won't accomplish that!!!   
      
   > And if the band isn't gonna let up, then the singer needs more level.   
      
   And if the guitar player isn't going to let up, the keyboard player needs to   
   turn up...i.e. Volume Wars!   
      
   > Or the band needs less :-)   
      
   YES!!!!! ABSOLUTELY!!!!! The volume knob needs to be cranked   
   COUNTERCLOCKWISE for a change!!!!! I've already suggested that.   
      
   > I'm setting this up for my solo and duo work. Don't expect it to work for   
   > the band well at all. They will do what they always do ..... crank it up   
   > and wail. Rock and roll, man :-)   
      
   Jim   
      
   When they overcrank, they're Destroying the Rock & Roll...and everything   
   else, particularly the ability to Hear the Music!   
      
   Ouisie   
      
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