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   Ouisie to JimD   
   Re: If it's too loud, you're too old.   
   26 Sep 18 19:43:11   
   
   From: someone@anywheret.net   
      
   "JimD"  wrote in message news:2018092614251110970-email@nowherecom...   
      
   > I posted a thing on when businesses change management.  She just doesn't   
   > know anything about sound.  Her problem was / is listening to the people   
   > who killed off her earlier bands because they didn't either :-)   
      
   I guess I'm kind of fortunate in that area. While I knew about dB levels   
   related to radio, my interest in audio also had me learning about it there   
   too, but it was when I got involved in the loudspeaker industry that I   
   really got to study it up close and personal. Unfortunately, most musicians   
   or for that matter, even most 'audiophiles' know practically nothing about   
   acoustics beyond their own perceptions, so I was quite fortunate to be able   
   to work with it through designs and in the laboratory.   
      
   > Any increase in gain will send the system into feedback. There is a   
   > solutiong. It's simple. Turn the stage level music down.   
      
   The compressor/Limiter would limit the peak levels.   
      
   > Once she tries the in ears, she'll like them.   
      
   If the sound person wasn't an Idiot and set the levels right, or better yet,   
   if I had a tablet to control my own monitor mix from an X Air capable mixer,   
   like the XR18 to set my own levels, I'm sure I'd like IEMs too - only   
   problem would be how long I could endure them stuck in my ears before I'd   
   have to yank them out.   
      
   > Fear.   
      
   Since fear is a psychological phenomenon, it most definitely can be part of   
   a psychoacoustic response.   
      
   > I'm ok.  I don't need help of the kind I've been getting :-)   
      
   Because with that kind of 'help', who needs to be hurt? ;)   
      
   > The people who hire me are the ones who count.  That IS who I listen too.   
      
   I'm sure they  know that, but are hoping you forgot about that...they're   
   obviously not too bright ;)   
      
   > It's about moving from the garage out into the real world. Some musicians   
   > can't make that change.   
      
   To put it in aviation terms, it's like a wanna be 'pilot' who's too afraid   
   to actually fly, limiting their activities to merely taxiing around the   
   field while avoiding the runways, lest they'd be headed for the real sky ;)   
      
   > Right. But in that is a realization that we eventually have to " ship   
   > product ".  That's a phrase from the software industry about how you can't   
   > keep changing / improving an unreleased app forever.  Eventually you have   
   > to ship something out the door to generate sales.   
      
   And in order to generate those sales, the Quality of the 'product' will have   
   to be conducive to that...even without improvements, enhancements, or   
   upgrades.   
      
   > As related to playing in live venues, you have what you have to work with.   
   > Set the pa up, adjust it however, then accept imperfection.   
      
   One kind of imperfection that canNOT be accepted however, is ANYthing   
   resulting from Incompetence, Immaturity, or any other kind of Stupidity!   
      
   > I don't see ( hear ) that.  All you can do is boost this or that frequency   
   > range.  And unless your singer has a truely odd voice, it's probably best   
   > to leave it alone.   
      
   Yes, a 1/3rd octave band eq boosting and cutting such a high resolution band   
   of frequencies can make some profound changes, which just like anything   
   else, requires great skill.   
      
   > Most of the time live bar bands use eq to try and eek out that last tiny   
   > drop of volume ... they dont consider how it affects the vocalists tone at   
   > all.   
      
   They don't consider much of anything. If they did, they'd discover that EQ   
   'shapes' the sound more than it makes it louder, which is what amps do best.   
      
   > He didn't think about hearing damage back in the day. And he isn't now.   
      
   Probably lost most of it by now anyway.   
      
   > Ours sound absolutely great.   
      
   I have no doubt that when properly set up, they would, easily.   
      
   > Far better than any pile of floor wedges could ever sound.   
      
   No comparison! Like a studio in your ears...even better because of the near   
   field advantage.   
      
   > But, the old school drummer fought me for years on it. And our " other guy   
   > " doesn't want to spend the money.   
      
   Have they at least tried them using the X Air control of ttheir own monitor   
   mix with the XR18?   
      
   > I love caffeine.  It's bad for you.  That's how things go.   
      
   JimD   
      
   I've thought about jumping off the wagon and having some again, but only   
   thought about it - I've been there before, until I had enough, then got back   
   on the wagon again...where I am now, and will probably stay there for quite   
   some time, until I don't need the antidepressant effects anymore.   
      
   Ouisie   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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