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   "JimD"  wrote in message news:201810161143239486-email@nowherecom...   
      
   > It's a great day.   Weather here is cooling as winter approaches, but it's   
   > still nice out. Jacket weather, I guess you'd say.  In a few weeks it will   
   > be cold, too cold to enjoy outside, so I'm enjoying now.   
      
   It got cold last year! And before that! Enough already! No more! I'm Sick   
   and tired of it!   
      
   > Me and the dog took a drive to the bank, cashed the first square dance   
   > check. Nice.   
      
   I'll bet! It's nice to do what you Love and make a living at it...and I'm   
   tired of waiting on that too!   
      
   > I may actually be able to buy a new mac before this one dies :-) I'd love   
   > to switch to something else, something other than a mac, but we've so much   
   > work in Logic, that conversion would take too much work. Thousands of   
   > tunes in Logic Pro. Yeah, it could be done, but   
      
   I understand that Logic used to be available for other OSs but the Root of   
   ALL Evil Fascists discontinued that after they acquired the original   
   manufacturer of Logic...but I hear there's a DAW called Reaper that's   
   supposed to be able to do everything Logic does, but unfortunately it's Root   
   of ALL Evil-fueled too, and I prefer freeware!   
      
   > it would be the better part of a year in doing, and hey ... like Neil   
   > Young sings in his song about the miner 49er  " and  I'm getting old ".   
   > Ok, that's supposed to be about romance, but the words to the old song, "   
   > I'm a miner, 49er "  fit in just as well.   
      
   Seems like 'getting old' really means getting More Deteriorated !   
      
   > Watched a video online about SRV's guitar tone and playing. Sweetwater   
   > sent the link.  Stevie played on the Bowie tune " Let's Dance ". Didn't   
   > know that.   
      
   I knew he played with Bowie from time to time, but it was a rough start,   
   allegedly David Bowie was a total cheapskate...no surprise there, he was a   
   sociopath and being cheap would merely be part of the pattern, and offered   
   Stevie something like 300 bucks for a show where Bowie would be getting tens   
   of thousands, and as legend has it, Stevie told him what he could do with   
   it, and himself, but Bowie reconsidered and decided not to cheat him, at   
   least not so much, and so SRV agreed to play with Bowie.   
      
   > So the video was about his guitar track, isolated so you can hear it, from   
   > that recording.   
      
   Yeah, what a Waste! Now if it was something with the Spiders From Mars,   
   Bowie at his best, because that band was at its best, flat out rock & roll,   
   that would have been a JAM!   
      
   > It's basically noise, single notes scratched and bent and vibratoed. Not   
   > melodical in any way, just seemingly haphazard squeaks and squeals and   
   > single notes bent then vibratoed.   
      
   That's what happens when a self-serving sociopath leaves his very best band   
   ever - CRAP!   
      
   > Hey, not looking down on that, I'm sure he got the big bucks for it.   
      
   That doesn't make it sound any less Crappy!   
      
   And the critics, being useless Parasites anyway, liked dumping on Bowie,   
   claiming he wasn't much of a musician, singer, or songwriter...but David   
   Bowie was a Great and Awesome musician, singer, and songwriter - it was as a   
   *person* that he really SUCKED!!!   
      
   > It's that he wasn't playing something melodic or coherent. Just ambiance,   
   > more like the scary background " monster " voices and sounds in Michael   
   > Jacksons' thriller video. Sounds for effect.   
      
   That was entirely Bowie's Stupid fault, trading Awesome for Crap!   
      
   > Why mention this ?  Because yesterday I was on the phone with our " other   
   > guy " singer.  He's a far far better vocalist than me, so I enjoy   
   > listening. I study him. Learn from those better than you.  So he was   
   > singing some song to me over the phone, something he wants us to do.  What   
   > I noticed was how detailed his voice was. Like the SRV thing, he had   
   > detail in his voice. Little glide in pitches, vibrato ... even more notes   
   > than I'd have sang on the same piece.   
      
   Those are various techniques that can be learned. I use a few of them myself   
   but sounding like yourself and developing That is what it's all about,   
   vocally, and instrumentally.   
      
   > So, it's all in the details. The difference between just singing a melody   
   > plain vanilla and having it rich with detail.  I can't be him. Don't   
   > aspire to. Not enough lifetime left to go back and spend 40 years onstage   
   > singing full time like he has, but he's fun to learn from.  I can get   
   > better somewhat :-)   
      
   Do it your own unique way!   
      
   > In a similar vein, if I want to sound all pro like SRV, buy the heaviest   
   > srtings I can find, put them on a Strat, and get a tube amp that I'd run   
   > right at the edge of it breaking up. There is something to that amp   
   > breakup sound. Something I never noticed before.  Not hearable onstage, or   
   > I'd have stumbled across it in my 64+ years.  Nope, there's distortion as   
   > the sound dies and a low end component that isn't normally gettable with   
   > any gear I've ever seen onstage. It's the sound of, best I could describe,   
   > a very small tube amp ... listened to up close.  Fender Twins have that   
   > tone ( but not the trailing off distortion ) sound like that at low level   
   > in quiet room.  Onstage that low end component isn't doable, as far as I   
   > know. To get that amount of lows at our stage level would crack the   
   > concrete foundations of a building.   
      
   I'm sure cab and amp modeling takes that into account, and Line6, and I'm   
   sure others, has some effects to simulate that.   
      
   > On a serious point, yeah, at low levels you could boost the low end to get   
   > that sound. But as the overall db's increase, that extra low end gain just   
   > isn't possible as the human ear reaches its limits.  I think tho, that   
   > this extreme mid scoop sound is what a lot of guys are after, and why the   
   > futile chase to " turn it up " onstage ?   
      
   That requires analysis, and since they're too Lazy to do that, they take the   
   'easy' way and crank it into the Deafness range.   
      
   > The trailing off distortion is another thing. His notes themselves are   
   > crystal clean, it's only the " tails " the sound as the notes die that   
   > sound distorted to me.   
      
   Maybe some kind of compression?   
      
   > Need to think about that.  Again tho, you'd never hear that onstage, as   
   > any trailing off sounds would be instantly buried under the overall " roar   
   > " on the stage of all the other insturments. To hear that, you'd need some   
   > space, some gaps, between the cymbal hits :-)   
      
   In that case there are only two options 1. process the signal or otherwise   
   reproduce it so as to capture that nuance and amplify it, or 2. TURN DOWN   
   THE NOISE so it can be heard!!!   
      
   > here, give a listen. Probably need headphones to really appreciate.   
      
   Or studio conditions...or Absolutely Awesome sounwork with the levels set   
      
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