From: someone@anywheret.net   
      
   "JimD"  wrote in message news:2018102121192952313-email@nowherecom...   
      
   > Yes, if he doesn't use the in ears, his drums will swamp the stage level   
   > .... for him and for us.   
      
   Then he's got two other options - Learn to play the drums more quietly, or   
   play an electronic drum kit.   
      
   > stage levels were lower in the 70's, before amps went solid state and bass   
   > amps became crazy loud. plus, they could hear better then.   
      
   There was solid state equipment back then - when I was 16, in my first band,   
   I used to play my keys through a large - appeared to be four 12", Standel   
   solid state bass amp...sounded great! I knew it was solid state because it   
   came on instantly and was amazingly light compared to the tube amps. I   
   haven't been able to find any pictures of it online, all they show are the   
   smaller amps and this one was big. Standel has a site so maybe I could ask   
   them about it since I didn't see it there either.   
      
   > And, they didn't have to work with any tracks. That means they didn't have   
   > to really LISTEN to anything. Just play, play loud, and expect others to   
   > stay with you.   
      
   Listening is Always a Requirement...unless sounding like CRAP is 'okay'!   
      
   > It's a process. It's hard to get people to change the habits of a   
   > lifetime. Even when change is easy. And better.  Change is still scary.   
      
   There's a psychological tactic I use with myself in such instances - don't   
   think of it as a change, rather think of it as an *experiment* and *try* it   
   first.   
      
   FORCED change is almost always Traumatic, but easing into *trying* it is far   
   less stressful.   
      
   > If you don't like following, as in staying in time with other players,   
   > then you either need to be a drummer ( ha ), or find a jam band :-)   
      
   I'm not referring to that kind of following, but rather following those who   
   don't do it that way, in order to prevent a train wreck.   
      
   > if you don't have fun doing it, and you don't have to work, don't need   
   > money,  then do whatever you want.   
      
   I Love Music and have more than fun - it becomes truly Orgasmic when it's   
   done *right*!   
      
   As for Filthy Lucre, what I Really Need is for the love of its underlying   
   Satanic concept, euphemistically called 'money', actually a 'replacement'   
   for God, to NOT be loved, thus Cutting Off the Root of ALL Evil, and Replace   
   THAT with a Gift Economy! That would be Genuine PROGRESS!!! ;)   
      
   > me either.  no wait, things sound like they do onstage. as in, they don't   
   > sound like listening to a recording from my easy chair in front ofa cozy   
   > fire ..... they sound like things sound onstage .... echos, bad balance,   
   > too much of this, not enough of that.   
      
   But good soundwork can work practical miracles in making the sound onstage   
   much better, for a much better Vibe!   
      
   > yep. earplugs. I didn't wear them enough tho.   
      
   That's a problem I have too, because I can't stand things stuck in my ears,   
   which means that I have to choose what's worse, too loud sounds stuck in my   
   ears or earplugs, which means I keep tolerating and holding off using them   
   when that's the first thing I should do at the first hint of too loud.   
   Yet, with the Clowns I played with several months ago, I couldn't wait to   
   ram the  earplugs in - they were That Painfully STUPIDLY loud!   
      
   > playing loud was the thing banc then. LOUD. Loud topped every other   
   > thing.  Loud over good. Loud over everything.   
      
   I've happily never had it *that* bad, bad enough, but not to the point where   
   being too loud was even more important that playing Well!   
      
   > I'm interested in interesting stuff.  After a while, that gets around   
   > to watching super expensive custom show tractors blow up :-)   
      
   JimD   
      
   I'd  rather watch air show videos ;)   
      
   Ouisie   
      
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