From: someone@anywheret.net   
      
   "Jim D"  wrote in message news:2018122710102072285-Not@ThisAddresscom...   
      
   > supposed to be here tomorrow.  I guess if it's awful I can send it back.   
      
   That's why I MUCH prefer to go to a store!   
      
   > my small 61 key Samson midi controller on the bottom shelf. It's a simple   
   > midi controller keyboard.   
      
   A big stand for a small keyboard, but according to the comments I've heard,   
   it's supposed to be able to easily handle any size.   
      
   > Laptop and two tablet computers on the top. A macbook pro ( Logic Pro X   
   > running software plugs for my keys and guitar, plus any backing tracks we   
   > use).   
      
   > An ipad for lyrics ( OnSong ), and an android tablet as a controller for   
   > the xr18 ( XAir app).  I'll need a shelf of some sort for that top thing   
   > to work, as the three computers are small and not one wide unit.  Not a   
   > lot of weight at all.   
      
   That kind of stuff on a keyboard stand?   
      
   > I also have a foot controller ( Roland expression pedal ) and a Logidy   
   > programmable midi switch. Those will be on the floor.   
      
   I can't imagine using a keyboard stand for anything but keys ;)   
      
   > And the TC Helicon Harmony Singer is back in use. For this week, that will   
   > also likely be on the floor.   
      
   I've got a 'bad' habit of not putting my TC Helicon VoiceLive Play on the   
   floor ;)   
      
   > I'd like to replace the Roland EV5 pedal with my Ernie Ball VPjr ... but   
   > that takes some work.  I'm using the EV5 to control the volume of my   
   > keyboard, my guitar, and my fiddle, all by cleverly routing in into the   
   > computer. Yes, it's a midi expression pedal, but it's doable.  I'd switch   
   > to the VPjr now, but haven't figured out the stereo routing yet. The Ernie   
   > Ball is a mono pedal, and my keys and guitar signals are stereo. Using the   
   > EV5 into Logic, and routing those instruments thru some Logic channels, I   
   > can get stereo from them.   
      
   > Confusing ?  It's not really, but would take a while to explain.   
      
   Sounds kind of wild but if it's all midi, I guess it'll work.   
      
   > Maybe putting a lot of weight on it is what makes it stable ?   I wonder   
   > about using it on carpet ......   
      
   Maybe the pictures of it are a pathetic substitute for experiencing it in   
   person, which is why I'd like to see one.   
      
   > When you're on top, guess you don't have to price compete ???   
      
   Thanks to Stupid Idiots, again!   
      
   > Same game with ebay.   
      
   I've Never seen it that bad with ebay.   
      
   > I don't see many deals on there, unless you're buying some really weirdo   
   > thing that no one else in the WHOLE WORLD wants.  Like, uh, the plastic   
   > pully that broke on my Honda van cruise control. Honda would only sell   
   > that as a whole new throttle body, $700.   Yikes. Not happening.  Thanks   
   > to ebay I bought an old crappy pull off throttle body for like $35 dollars   
   > from some junk yard in Arizona. Took that pully off the side, threw the   
   > rest away.  Fixed my cruise right up.  $35 for a plastic part that cost   
   > pennies is still crazy, but not as crazy as what the Honda dealership   
   > quoted.   
      
   That's disgusting! For a piece of plastic!   
      
   > Wire welder, several old x-frame stands, some tubing from old bike frames,   
   > and some duct tape  :-)   
      
   > Oh, and a piece of wooden shelving .....   
      
   Sounds crazy ;)   
      
   > Congrats on the " new " wheels.   
      
   I only wish it was a 5 speed manual instead of a 5 speed automatic.   
      
   > Reason my stand is a loading issue is that I have to ALSO carry the Roland   
   > V-drums and half the pa ... in addition to our led lights and my three   
   > instruments, two skb rack cases ( an 8 and a 6 space ) , some bags of   
   > cables ... then me and wife.  It's a pretty tight packing.   
      
   The rack cases and pa speakers sound bulky.   
      
   > Sometimes I take on of the rear seats out. Not always. It has two rear   
   > bucket seats, but they come out easy as pie.  I take one out sometimes   
   > them put it back the next day. Don't have to, but it makes loading up   
   > easier.  Hopefully new stand will make that unnecessary.   
      
   It's always impressive to be able to stuff a lot of stuff into small spaces   
   )   
      
   > Not sure how big / heavy duty your Scion is, but as a general thing, our   
   > cars aren't simi trailers.  Not made to carry the world, like Atlas.   
   > Reason I mention that is ... remember a while back I was all excited about   
   > a friend of mine's Prius ?  Well, rode in it yesterday.  Broken rear   
   > spring and all.   Not sure what he piled in that that, but whatever it was   
   > heavy.  Now his pretty Prius rides all crooked.   
      
   The Scion XA is a microvan, a tiny minivan, very van-like, without sliding   
   doors, so I load it with no more, actually a lot less, than the weight it's   
   5 place stated capacity would normally accommodate. It's tiny on the   
   outside, but pleasantly if not surprisingly to some, very roomy on the   
   inside. The only other vehicle I ever experienced that pleasant phenomena in   
   was my dearly departed much beloved 1974 International Scout II...which I   
   sure miss.   
      
   > You know, come to think of it, one ( or maybe both ) of the rear springs   
   > were broken on his earlier car, a Toyota Camrey.   
      
   JimD   
      
   The only vehicle I ever drove while overloaded was a minivan taxi many years   
   ago with about 8 really big drunk guys inside, taking them to the next bar   
   and bottoming out the springs - what an ordeal that was ;)   
      
   Ouisie   
      
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