From: someone@anywheret.net   
      
   "Jim D"  wrote in message news:2019010113563397749-Not@ThisAddresscom...   
      
   > If at all possible, don't.   Maybe it's just me. Maybe it's the current   
   > cultural " war on men ".   Maybe it's something else entirely.   
      
   It sounds more Crazy than anything ;)   
      
   > What I'm thinking of here is a comment after our duo gig yesterday.  When   
   > I finish the set, I sit my guitar down, walk away from the stage, an talk   
   > to people.   
      
   That's the usual procedure between sets.   
      
   > When band girl finishes, she packs her stuff up. Then, if there's anyone   
   > still there, she will talk to them.   
      
   Maybe she's in more of a hurry. And just how heavy and/or bulky is her   
   'stuff' to pack anyway?   
      
   > The comment was " Is he gonna make her pack all the gear up by herself ?   
   > ", came from some older woman in the audience.   
      
   Was there *that* much of her stuff?   
      
   > Here's the deal. I say at the end of EVERY gig, " hey, let it ( packing   
   > up ) go and talk to some people ".  Every gig, every time. Packing up to   
   > see how soon we can get out the door isn't my thing.   
      
   I've found that packing up first, or last, doesn't gain any more time either   
   way.   
      
   > Same problems at band gigs. It becomes a race to see how quickly we can   
   > leave.  I'm the band leader, I book the gigs. I need, NEED, to smooze a   
   > bit.   
      
   If the others were smarter, they'd try some of that too.   
      
   > Oh, an the duo comment ..... She isn't expected to pack my mic and case   
   > up. It's just that I'm not gonna do it at the cost of getting some   
   > audience feedback at the end.   
      
   A mic and a case? What's that to pack up???   
      
   > My stuff isn't her gear, she never has and never will pack it up.  But   
   > that old woman, with her mental bias, saw me sitting my guitar down, while   
   > band girl couldn't get her mic packed as quickly as possible as me leaving   
   > her to do the teardown.   
      
   Sounds NUTS! What's a mic and its case compared to a pa, spekers, mounting   
   hardware, mixer, cables, stands, instruments and their cases, etc...???   
      
   > This is serious and dangerous territory.   
      
   Sounds like dangerous INSANITY!   
      
   > One reason I do so well at my solo gigs is that I talk to people after my   
   > sets, and adjust how I work according to what they tell me.   
      
   Yep, it's all part of following up.   
      
   > So how do I stop the old cows from looking at me like an abusive .... man   
   > ....... :-)   
      
   Get them to resume their psych meds ;)   
      
   > Hey, how about I offer real obviously to help band girl pack her mic up   
   > ... then go talk to the audience ?   
      
   When someone is looking for trouble, that's their objective and they'll let   
   nothing get in the way.   
      
   > another trap here is best illustrated by a band job where two older women   
   > at a club dance became angry that I said " no " to some song band girl   
   > wanted to sing.   
      
   How  did they even know about it?   
      
   > I had reasons,  but those don't matter now. What matters is that those   
   > women were closly watching, and saw me say no. And that's just not   
   > acceptable to modern feminists.  Men are always wrong, always to be   
   > blamed.   
      
   They weren't watching closely enough though...sounds like the   
   chip-on-the-shoulder society.   
      
   > Easy solution, don't get any women on the stage with me.   
      
   Then you'll hear complaints about that ;)   
      
   > Except I already have one.  As long as it looks like she's calling all the   
   > shots, there's no problem.  In my particular case, band girl can't talk to   
   > an audience at all ... complete lack of ability to read the crowd and   
   > interact.  Our other guy has the same issue. Off stage either one is a   
   > cordual as can be. Onstage, their brains seem to lock up.   
      
   Sounds like they're locking out the most fun part, interacting!   
      
   > ok, thanks for listening.   
      
   > I'll make myself a note to not look like I'm ever ever doing anything   
   > except play door mat to the chick.   
      
      
   JimD   
      
   That's why I prefer to play and sing at the same time, it eliminates a lot   
   of silly problems.   
      
   Ouisie   
      
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