From: someone@anywheret.net   
      
   "JimD"  wrote in message news:2016102009103698820-email@nowherecom...   
      
   > All this comes down to the band being aware of dynamics.   
      
   That's ALL all right! Being aware of it and *adjusting* to it in real time   
   is critical...making the difference between a great performance, and a train   
   wreck!   
      
   > If the game is to play as loud as you feel like all the time, it rapidly   
   > becomes a bit much.  We need to understand that it's possible to " let off   
   > " a bit on the volume on some songs.   
      
   I change the volume and for that  matter, the style dynamic as well   
   constantly throughout the entire song...it happens all the time with our   
   church band.   
      
   > Our drummer is like a peak hold meter. For anyone unfamiliar, those have a   
   > little " tic " or led segment that's always visible and stays at the   
   > highest point registered until it's reset. It only moves upward. It shows   
   > the highest level a signal has reached, then stays there even once the   
   > signal drops again. Hence the term " peak hold "   
      
   But that peak hold function is ONLY there to show how high the value   
   got...probably pursuant to the acoustic equivalent of V(ne) Velocity (Never   
   Exceed) in an aircraft ;)   
      
   > I feel, as does the chick singer, that our stage level only edges upward.   
   > We're both holding back, so as to not drive this.   
      
   With practice, it shouldn’t feel like holding back but rather adjusting as   
   necessary when necessary.   
      
   > She was talking about it last night. Said if she sings louder, the drum   
   > level comes up, and then everything else, and it never goes back down. I   
   > feel the same about the guitar levels. I hold back on solos, so as to not   
   > have this  ... up and only upwards .. volume thing occur.   
      
      
   Stupid, huh ?   
      
   Yeah, it sure  is...because it's up to each player to dynamically adjust the   
   level of their playing, both upward and downward...to  make the song sound   
   like it should...it's all part of musicianship!   
      
   And that's an interesting question to get the answer to from each player, as   
   in: What do you consider musicianship to entail? Unfortunately if not   
   tragically, it's not as common an understanding as it should be. It's a   
   good, not to mention very important communication topic to consider.   
      
   > Is there any limit as to how loud the drummer will play ?   
      
   An IMMATURE one, no.   
      
   >  I don't see any.  He says he can't hear the music.  Turn his monitors up,   
   > and he'll go right with them. If he has more monitors, he plays louder.   
   > Right on until there is no way the rest of us can hear anything useful   
   > onstage.   
      
   He's got some growing up to do!   
      
   > Ever see those pictures with drummers in a plexiglass cage :-)   
      
   At one church I used to attend, their drummer had one...and he wasn't   
   particularly  loud either...so I wonder what he was able to hear through   
   that enclosure.   
      
   > Why is it so many don't appreciate how loud they are ?  Do they just like   
   > the noise ?  Are they deaf ?   
      
   Possibly any or a combination...but the bottom line is THEY DON'T LISTEN!   
      
   > Or, maybe our guy is trying to drown out the tracks, because he doesn't   
   > like those, feels they are " karaoke ", maybe thinks if he playes loud   
   > enough no one will hear them ?   
      
   Do an experiment and find out if that's it.   
      
   > Bands are a PITA.   
      
   Nah, only the  Immature are!   
      
   > On a happier note, one of the last of my solo gig regular places checked   
   > in with next years gigs. Only a few over the year, but every gig counts,   
   > and it keeps contact with that place open.   
      
      
   Jim   
      
   I hear that!   
      
   Ouisie   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)