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   Ouisie to JimD   
   Re: real issue   
   24 Oct 16 10:54:12   
   
   From: someone@anywheret.net   
      
   "JimD"  wrote in message news:201610241059089841-email@nowherecom...   
      
   > This timing thing has me thinking about robots.  Or baseball swings.   
   > Swinging a baseball bat, and hitting the ball is delicate timing. It's   
   > something you have to do a bit to learn, yet we can. Some people are   
   > better at it.  In any case, it all happens very fast and by some   
   > specialized part of the brain. We don't " think " about hitting a ball, we   
   > just do it. It takes quick eye / hand / arm coordination, all done without   
   > conscious awareness.   
      
   I'd say we're aware, just not concentrating on each tiny detail but rather   
   on the 'big picture', which is complete with a good "follow through".   
      
   > Robot. Currently those can barely walk. To get that ability, designers   
   > need to break walking down to fundamental pieces ( steps ... ha ) and   
   > program the machine.  That's how I see these timing issues.  To play a   
   > nice rhythm part, a human player learns when to strum and how fast to   
   > cross the strings in the same why we learn to swinfg a bat or ride a bike.   
   > It's a largely unconscous process.   
      
   It's very conscious...but the focus  of that consciousness is on the effect   
   of all the factors combined rather than one at a time.   
      
   > To program a sequence to do this you have to actually KNOW what's going   
   > on. Like teaching a robot to walk. I have to actually know the timing   
   > issues, be able to say exactly when a note sounds, how early or late   
   > compared to the " beat ".   
      
   Computers can't think. They can only simulate the process as well as a   
   machine is able...and they can't truly process data like a living creature   
   does...because the psychology, which involves so very many factors,   
   including spiritual ones, are simply not possible to exactly duplicate with   
   a computer, only simulate.   
      
   > It's fun tho.  I'm learning a lot.   
      
      
   Jim.   
      
   Just so long as the Nonliving is ever substituted for the  Living!   
      
   Ouisie   
      
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