From: someone@anywheret.net   
      
   "JimD"  wrote in message news:2017010111221670805-email@nowherecom...   
      
   > Don't they want to be called " progressives " now ?   And of course, who   
   > would oppose them ?  Who would want to be against progress ?   
      
   Depends entirely on what's being referenced by the term "progress"!   
      
   For example, here's a Chilling reference to so-called 'progress' in an   
   *expose* written 69 years ago:   
      
   Progress in our world will be   
   progress toward more pain. The old civilizations claimed that   
   they were founded on love and justice. Ours is founded upon   
   hatred. In our world there will be no emotions except fear,   
   rage, triumph, and self-abasement. Everything else we shall   
   destroy--everything. Already we are breaking down the habits   
   of thought which have survived from before the Revolution. We   
   have cut the links between child and parent, and between man   
   and man, and between man and woman. No one dares trust a wife   
   or a child or a friend any longer. But in the future there   
   will be no wives and no friends. Children will be taken from   
   their mothers at birth, as one takes eggs from a hen.   
                                  --- George Orwell "1984" (1948)   
      
   > Kinda like when some politician promises " fundamental change ".  How   
   > stupid does a nation have to be to not ask what, specifically, the clown   
   > had in mind ?   
      
   A country of Dumbed-Down Brain-Dead Zombie Robots is plenty Stupid enough   
   not to ask Important questions, about ANYthing!   
      
   > People learn. Ok, some people do.   
      
   Tragically so very few actually do, at least insomuch as enough to do   
   something *useful* with what they learn - the rest are mostly if not   
   entirely Brainwashed, Propagandized, Conditioned, and Programmed!   
      
   > The thing is, we're such small creatures.   
      
   Yep, Puny, Petty, and Pathetic!   
      
   > We can't learn very much, as compared to what there is to know.  But it   
   > takes a long time, and some self honesty to realize, admit that.  If you   
   > run into someone who thinks they know everything, my advice it keep   
   > running ..... the other way :-)   
      
   Or run towards them, ready to FIGHT!   
   Because that may be necessary, just like it was with our American   
   Revolution...and for the very same reasons!   
   Besides, if you run away from them, they might very well start chasing   
   you...like a pack of Obnoxious, Vicious dogs!   
      
   > isn't one definition of insanity when you keep doing the same thing over   
   > and over expecting different result ?   
      
   That's one of them.   
      
   > In the case of politics, there seems to be a baked in genetic flaw in   
   > humans, being willing to " follow a leader ".   
      
   That's not the problem, rather it's THE Major Problem when it's a matter of   
   Blindly, STUPIDLY following ANY leader without FIRST VERIFYING the   
   prospective 'leader's' QUALIFICATIONS and then following ONLY WHEN they're   
   found to be SUFFICIENTLY SUITABLE!!!   
      
   > People who believe in that concept will argue that there's no other way   
   > humans can survive.   
      
   My contention with such types regarding that is to 'cut to the chase' and   
   proclaim that ANY creature that can't 'survive' without Tyranny DOESN'T   
   DESERVE TO SURVIVE...and GOOD RIDDANCE the sooner they're gone! ;)   
      
   > We have to have kings, and we have to have governments, and we have to   
   > have leaders. I don't belive that. Doesn't matter.  Some people have a   
   > need to be lead.   
      
   The nation of ancient Israel already *had* the finest and Greatest King of   
   all, the King of kings, and Lord of lords, and the very best Government   
   throughout all eternity, His Perfect Government - but they were Evil and   
   wanted a *Filthy rags* 'king' of *Fallen flesh*...in other words, they   
   wanted CORRUPTION!   
      
   The Testimony of this Tragedy starts in 1 Samuel 8:1   
      
   > Liars lie.   
      
   But Only FOOLS believe them, and Tragically, there are a LOT, TOO MANY in   
   fact, FOOLS around!   
      
   > My version of Genesis doesn't go into that level of detail.  Enoch might,   
   > have to look into that. Then there is the whole question of Lillith ... is   
   > that one L ot two ?   
      
   Merely so much more Satanic Nonsense.   
      
   > really ?   
      
   Yes. Being Deceived is NOT gender specific. And although 1 Timothy 2:14   
   states:   
      
   And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the   
   transgression.   
      
   It's still only a matter of who was deceived *first*.   
      
   > Well, up until then God probably seemed a reasonable god.  Did Adam   
   > actually know what the consequences would turn out to be.   
      
   Yes, God told Adam that in the day he Disobeyed and ate of the Forbidden   
   tree, he would surely die.   
      
   > Or, how about ...  we learn from experience, and we get experience from   
   > screwing up.   
      
   But the Survivors are the ones who are Careful...and  Adam certainly   
   wasn't...and  just Look at the Mess that resulted, particularly in regards   
   to Death, Precisely as God told Adam!!!   
      
   > MIC'ED DRUMS ?????   
      
   > ok, I'll call this the point where you decided to kill your club work.   
      
   Not with my drummer. I know it may seem impossible to believe but we really   
   know how to keep the volume at a level that doesn't blow anyone  away...but   
   that makes it difficult for him to play certain drum passages and still be   
   heard because the volume will drop dramatically, which requires mic'ing to   
   compensate.   
      
   > Yep, that's their plan. Overpopulation isn't really a problem, for two   
   > reasons. One, it's not a real issue, and two, when governements decide   
   > there are too many people, they will kill a bunch off.   
      
   When the Manipulators decide there are too many people, they'll wholesale   
   slaughter them off en masse, with no more regards than turning off a light.   
   But Over 7.5 BILLION humans on one little planet all at the same time IS a   
   HORRENDOUS situation, of Totally Unprecedented dimensions and   
   characteristics!!!   
      
   > Move out of the ciy. It looks crowded if you bunch up and live in a   
   > crowded place.   
      
   I'm sure thinking about it...but this time, I want to make Absolutely   
   Certain that the city won't moving to where I'm going!!!   
      
   > Outside the cities there is a lot of room It might surprise you how empty   
   > huge swaths of the world are.   
      
      
   Jim   
      
   It doesn't surprise me at all, but there are still WAAAAAAAAAAAY   
   TOOOOOOOOOOO MANY ***BILLIONS*** OF HUMANS ON THIS PLANET!!!!!!!!!!!!!   
      
   Ouisie   
      
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