From: someone@anywheret.net   
      
   "JimD"  wrote in message news:2017010719170573343-email@nowherecom...   
      
   > I have a few friends with whom I disagree on this stuff.  What point is   
   > there in discussing things with someone who isn't open to new idea's, or   
   > of any possibility of changing their minds on a topic ?  Have to decide   
   > whether it's worth my effort to even talk with them.   
      
   > Basically it isn't.  So we talk about other things.   
      
      
   Jim   
      
   That's the wrong approach altogether. So very many believe that somehow,   
   someone can merely be 'talked into' Faith, but it doesn't work like that at   
   all.   
      
   Here's what the Bible says about Precisely how it's done:   
      
   In the Gospel of John, 6:44, Jesus says:   
      
   No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I   
   will raise him up at the last day.   
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   And some profound details on how this comes about comes from Romans 10:17:   
      
   So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.   
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   Clearly it's the Word of God, *not* man, that results in conversion...but   
   this is really no surprise at all since Faith is NOT a 'decision', but   
   rather a Conviction, of a Divine nature!   
      
   Ouisie   
      
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    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)