From: someone@anywheret.net   
      
   "JimD"  wrote in message news:2017061123421452484-email@nowherecom...   
      
   > Trump was at the diner. In the middle of O's remarks, he singled Trump (   
   > who wasn't a candidate at that point ) out and made fun of him.   
      
   I can't imagine what motive he'd have for doing that considering Trump   
   wasn't a candidate yet...unless of course it was all part of  the CUT AND   
   DRIED nature of the whole Corrupted Filthy thing.   
      
   > It's hot here also.  Was 86 or something today. We waited until the sun   
   > went down and worked in the garden some.   
      
   It's supposed to be 95 F over here today...but the humidity has been low...I   
   hope so, because I like 100 F, but with 0% humidity - very pleasant!   
      
   > There is, and I have some.  But it's a very fiddlie process, and doesn't   
   > always sound very nice. In our case, it wouldn't be one single file that   
   > would need altered, but many. Each song is composed of many tracks, so   
   > maybe 5 or 6 would have to be done. Thats way too much work. It would be   
   > most of the time be easier to just rerecord all the instruments.   
      
   Is it for a final recording, like on an album for example? If not, why so   
   many tracks?   
      
   > We recorded one tune, at the end of a normal rehearsal. Purpose was so T   
   > could play the bass line and I'd make a keyboard synth part of that for   
   > live use. Except we didn't stay with the click at all. So, the bass line,   
   > and the rest of the song, sounded great ( not really ) but were totally   
   > useless for me to use to make a track from.  I blame myself. I didn't make   
   > it clear that the point was to make a usable track, and that staying in   
   > snyc with the click was critical.  Talked to the drummer today. HE was   
   > fully aware of how it went, said, well, we really weren't feeling the song   
   > at the click tempo, and so just went with a slower speed.   
      
   Yep, it's about the Vibe, not the clicks ;)   
      
   > Like I said, I didn't make it clear at the outset that we HAD to stay with   
   > the click, the sync track, for the resulting bass line to be usable.   
      
   Following a clock isn't anywhere near as fun as following other musicians!   
   No dynamics that way because machines are NOT capable of them. But there are   
   many dynamics with Live persons playing as opposed to NON-live machines   
   generating sounds, and while volume is one of the most commonly mentioned   
   dynamics, there are also others, including time dynamics.   
      
   > I looked at what we did get today. Even got my bass out and played along   
   > with it.  I could write it out and replay it in time, I guess.  Such a   
   > waste of time.   
      
   I sure agree with that!   
      
   > I'll be WAY clearer if we ever try that again. The point is not to " feel   
   > the song " it's to play it in tempo so I can record the bassline.   
      
   If feeling the song is unimportant, then why even play it in the first   
   place? It can always be sequenced note by note.   
   When I play, if there's no Vibe, I get bored, depressed, and just plain   
   bummed out very quickly.   
      
   > What I wanted, and why I wanted T to play the bass, is so I can make some   
   > backing tracks that are how he sings the song. I was hoping to capture his   
   > arrangement and feel. What ended up was a total mess.   
      
   The arrangement, sure, but not the feel without the Vibe, which Profoundly   
   and Intimately influences how something is played.   
      
   > Some people resist progress.   
      
   Some people Dare to Question What is being CALLED 'progress, and WHY'!!!   
      
   > You'd be one of those, but that's ok, I   
      
   For starters, I question WHY Depersonalizing and Departing from the Living   
   nature of Music is being called 'progress'.   
      
   > don't have to work with you :-)   
      
   You might be surprised if you did...assuming of course, that the objective   
   was NOT to turn what's Supposed to be Live person oriented into something   
   Lifeless and Robotic ;)   
      
   > But as far as people I DO have to work with, it's a business. Get onboard   
   > or step aside.   
      
   There's good business and there's bad business, like Depersonalizing Music   
   and making it Robotic!   
      
   > There are plenty of good reasons to do things the old way. Hell, I can see   
   > me doing that. Ok, not really. I can't ever see me throwing out great   
   > tools because other people are envious. Or just don't know what they do.   
      
   Depends on What it is....as in 'it-is-what-it-is', but What is it?   
      
   > Still, I can appreciate that some might not want to go this path.   
      
   Depends on that path's direction and where it ultimately leads.   
      
   > That's cool.  Do whatever you want. But be honest and upfront about it.   
   > Don't say you're good with it, and yet fight it in every imaginable way.   
      
   Who's doing that?   
      
   > Life is hard enough without your own people dogging the effort.   
      
      
   Jim   
      
   Maybe they thought they could handle the Lifelessness of Robotic, mechanized   
   Nonliving so-called 'music', but have since discovered, perhaps even the   
   hard way, that that's ultimately NOT why they got into Music in the first   
   place!   
      
   Ouisie   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)