From: someone@anywheret.net   
      
   "JimD"  wrote in message news:2017062811385737691-email@nowherecom...   
      
   > Cats.   
      
   Your kitties are causing the sinus  problem?   
      
   > That's pretty hefty.  But I bet you like the sound.   
      
   I like it. It's no Motif, but still sounds good. Besides, it's the only   
   other keyboard for the use I have in mind.   
      
   > In the drummers case, he doesn't sing. The monitor was so he could hear   
   > the rest of us play.  We don't use stage amp, it's all thru the pa. And   
   > that works great except for, ah, one particular drummer who doesn't like   
   > in ear monitors or headphones. He wants to hear the music and vocals over   
   > top of his acoustic drum set. Catch is, no matter how loud we crank the   
   > stage level, he just plays louder and asks for more level.   
      
   He needs to learn how to play less loudly.   
      
   >  Way past what the rest of us want the stage level to be.  I'm not gonna   
   > scream my vocals over a 100+ db stage instrument level JUST BECAUSE our   
   > drummer wants to play his drums hard.   
      
   Maybe he needs an amp i.e. powered monitor right next to head blowing it off   
   from the pa signal.   
      
   > Last gig was a big stage, and he did use his in ears, as far as I know.   
   > The stage level was middling, level wis. We had four side fill JBL's, ( 2   
   > each side ) but lucky for me I wasn't standing directly in line with any,   
   > so I didn't end up with any busted eardrums :-)   
      
   I'd Never stay at a position were I'd lose my hearing, unless I used   
   earplugs.   
      
   > I just don't understand the jam attitude once you move to any sort of   
   > serious group  playing.   
      
   Let me portray it in terms of an acrobat performing freestyle moves, which   
   after all is Exactly what musicians do when they jam.   
   If the acrobat doesn't First, in Advance, Thoroughly Know the surfaces and   
   objects to be used, serious injury and even death could result. With Music,   
   while such a risk might not have such a final outcome,j a Trainwreck is what   
   could still result.   
      
   > Playing in a group setting often ( but not always ) requires   
   > co-operation.   
      
   It's safest and most Practical to assume that cooperation is Always required   
   because even in those by chance situations where it may not be, the Vibe,   
   and the sound will Always be better if it's there!!!   
      
   > Not always, and a good example of that is your typical 3 piece kid band.   
   > One drummer, one bassist, one singer or guitarist ( keyboard ). In that   
   > setting the various functions don't really overlap and only a very basic   
   > level of interaction is necessary.   
      
   They they'll probably have a very empty sound.   
      
   > What the drummer does doesn't affect the guitar. What the guitar does   
   > doesn't affect the bass.  Other than it would be nice if they played the   
   > same song, or stayed in the same key and tempo.   
      
   That means they're disconnected and that's precisely how  they'll sound   
   too...CRAPPY!!!   
      
   > And that's why that format is so common with kids. Very little, ok very   
   > very little, discipline is necessary. Thye just all crank it up and jam   
   > away.   
      
   I sure didn't start out that way!!!   
   I had to put up with it far tooooooo much, but that's what turned me off!!!   
      
   > Boring to the extreme unless you're them, or one of their drunken   
   > girlfriends.   
      
   Or already Deaf!!!   
      
   > Maybe in a few weeks, I'll arrange a trip to try one.   
      
   Well I sure don't care to travel just to try the keyboards!   
      
   > I'm not over the " art student " band thing. Bands formed completely by   
   > non musicians, who happen to be art college drop outs.  Looks like that is   
   > what Talking Heads was, as was Devo.   
      
   While I'm not at all fond of the 'Heads or Devo, I'd be rather impressed if   
   their artistic experience prior to Music had been something other than   
   Music...then that's saying quite a lot.   
      
   > Is that a badge of honor, to be an art student ?  Who pays to go to school   
   > to learn that ?   
      
   Jim   
      
   If it's to learn to play on their own with no previous experience, I'd sure   
   say it's a badge of honor.   
      
   Ouisie   
      
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