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   "JimD"  wrote in message news:201709201045479302-email@nowherecom...   
      
   > That video is fun.   
      
   It was pretty awesome, in spite of their use of 'tracks' at times. At least   
   it confirms the validity of what I've always wanted to do with a clavinet,   
   or a DX7's accurate clavinet voice - turn it into a lead and/or heavy metal   
   'guitar' with distortion, compression, wah, etc.   
      
   > It's nice to see that someone, somewhere, still has time and interest in   
   > playing those old songs from so long ago.   
      
   Those old songs Awesomely withstood the test of time and have become   
   classics, because Great is Great, no matter what the calendar says!!!   
   Songs with that characteristic are the kind I'm into writing - to continue   
   the Tradition!!!   
      
   > The blues jam riffs at the beginning really set the tone for me tho, and   
   > sadly it was, hey, a keyboard player who sounds like a beginning   
   > guitarist. That sounds like a backhanded compliment, but I don't really   
   > mean it as that. The guy clearly spent some time learning guitar riffs, so   
   > cool.   
      
   I believe I'll be able to do pretty much the same thing with my DX7,   
   particularly since I've adjusted the range of the pitch bend wheel from its   
   max, a full octave up and a full octave down, to only one full step up and   
   one full step down, the smallest limit is one half step up, and down, but   
   the full step gives me more control of my 'string' bending ;)   
      
   > What comes to mind for me was when midi guitars came out and the thing to   
   > do was use them to sound like a beginning piano player.   
      
   All that means, just like the keyboard player sounding like a guitar   
   beginner, is that the simulation is something less than 100 percent   
   perfect - but at least for myself, that's okay because it sounds *enough*   
   like a guitar. In a way, I don't think I'd want it to sound *exactly* like a   
   guitar for the kind of material I'm doing, because I like drawing attention   
   to keyboards because they're not yet equally represented along with other   
   instruments, particularly the guitar, in rock and roll and I'd like to   
   change that.   
      
   > That insight happened one day when I was hanging out in a lesson room at   
   > the music store, and someone was trying out a midi guitar rig out in the   
   > showroom. We could hear it, and not knowing it was a guitar rig, though, "   
   > eeew, a crummy keyboard player " testing a keyboard.   Turns out it   
   > wasn't. It was decent guitar player playing a setup that made him SOUND   
   > like a crummy keyboard player.   
      
   Yeah, if you're expecting a midi guitar to make you sound like a decent   
   pianist playing a Steinway, that could be a problem ;)   
      
   On the other hand, if you're expecting a keyboard and some effects to make   
   you sound like a decent guitarist getting down with  lots of fuzz,   
   overdrive, and other heavy metal distortion, that won't be much of a problem   
   )   
      
   > Iffy timing, no real range, oddly voiced chords.  Guitar is no match at   
   > all in the chord world for piano.   
      
   Insomuch as while you're limited to only 6 notes at a time on guitar, on   
   keys, you get a 10 note limit, one for each finger...but I rarely ever try   
   to see how many fingers are pressing keys. Instead I usually play from 4   
   notes to 7 at one time, so that difference isn't all that far off.   
      
   > Nor is it up to doing the polytonal things, or the bass while also playing   
   > a lead line, or chords while playing a lead line, or bass while playing   
   > chords.   
      
   That's the results of the shortcomings of the system being used currently.   
      
   > So, considering all that, it should be childsplay for a decent keyboardist   
   > to do one note at a time guitar riffs ...... especially simple blues   
   > lines.   
      
   Yep, particularly with distortion.   
      
   > The novelty is in doing rockish guitar riffs on a keyboard. It's the -   
   > doing it on a keyboard - that is cute.   
      
   It's a LOT more than 'cute', it's Versatility, more variety to the  sound,   
   particularly for a duo - it makes the performances more interesting, as   
   opposed to hearing the same piano all the time, which can get Boring.   
      
   >  'Cause if you showed up at a gig playing that same exact stuff on a   
   > guitar, no one, as in NO ONE, would be impressed. Would they ?  Wouldn't   
   > they go .... eh, another blues dude :-)   
      
   > Or am I missing something ?   
      
   Jim   
      
   It's most likely that it's expected that an instrument sound like what it   
   is, i.e. a guitar is expected to sound like a guitar, with ALL of its   
   characteristic nuances, because it IS a guitar...BUT...get some of those   
   effects, not even all of them, more commonly understood to be part of the   
   characterist sound of a Real guitar...from a keyboard, and That's   
   impressive, interesting, and versatile.   
   I'd just LOVE the chance to get my DX7 clavinet going through the right   
   distortion (I still have to find it), and then get together with a Real   
   guitar player and jam...That would be Awesome, and I'd learn to be a better   
   keyboard 'guitar' player in the process!   
      
   Ouisie   
      
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