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   Ouisie to JimD   
   Re: blew a speaker / horn   
   10 Oct 17 12:31:49   
   
   From: someone@anywheret.net   
      
   "JimD"  wrote in message news:201710100937109857-email@nowherecom...   
      
   > Right. I wasn't clear about those ratings. That's the combined power of   
   > the internal amps in each of these cabs.  They are self powered. I don't   
   > know the breakdown of how much goes to the horn and how much the woofer.   
   > Suppose it's look-up-able.  Guess would be 20 or 30 watts to the horn max,   
   > but that's just a guess and it's early and I haven't had any caffeine yet   
   > :-)   
      
   I'm still off the caffeine ;) But I'm sure those horns weren't made to take   
   much more than what you mentioned, and the ferrofluid heat sink cooling is   
   just a way to entice pushing the power higher, until it does fry.   
   And ferrofluid definitely affects the frequency response with its damping   
   effect.   
   We actually built the power handling capability into our speakers, we didn't   
   squirt it in ;)   
      
   > We recorded that saturday ( or was it sunday ? ) gig from the audience   
   > perspective. LIstened to that some last night.  Eye opening, or should   
   > that be ear opening.  Bass ( synth ) is hearable easy.  Vocals are   
   > hearable, if just a tad on the muffled side.   My guitar, not so much.   
   > Guitar was thin, and overall too low in the mix.  The other instruments on   
   > the tracks ... barely if at all.    Drums .... clear and plain and   
   > dominant.   
      
   Time to readjust the mixing.   
      
   > This surprised me, as the drummer is CONSTANTLY saying my guitar is too   
   > loud.  And the vocals are a little loud.   
      
   > Huh.   
      
   Sounds like the lower levels enabled everyone to actually HEAR things for a   
   change ;)   
      
   > The recordings clearly show that not to be the case. Not at all.   Back to   
   > the drummer. He admitted after the gig that he was maybe playing a bit   
   > hard.  Said he couldn't hear the bass ( synth ) sometimes.  Easy and   
   > obvious to everyone but him, that's because he drowns it out. No matter   
   > where I set the stage level, he'll just play a little over that, and then,   
   > well, say he can't hear.   
      
   Maybe he needs to be in one of those plexiglas enclosures for drummers who   
   won't control their volume ;)   
      
   > One of our old bass players was at the gig. He came up and sat in vocally   
   > on a few tunes. Pre coming onstage he told my wife the issue was that the   
   > drummer needed a bass only monitor wedge so he could hear the tracks.   
   > After he came onstage, there wasn't another word from him like that.   
      
   Does that mean the monitors are cranked more than the  mains?   
      
   > What is painfully obvious to us is it's in how he ( drummer ) thinks about   
   > the gig.  He's not thinking overall sound at all. He's thinking " how do I   
   > sound ", and " can everyone hear me ".  The result is he doesn't get it   
   > that we're not some 70's bar band where the goal is to just crank it up   
   > and turn the mix into a roar of jumbled noise.   
      
   Doesn't matter what period of time it is...Egotistic Selfishness is NOT what   
   it's about!   
      
   > Thinking about sending him some of the audience recording.   
      
   > Or maybe not. What's the point.   
      
   Jim   
      
   If it's his ego problem that's the  problem, and it sure sound like it, then   
   the drummer enclosure would be the  best way to go ;)   
      
   Ouisie   
      
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