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|    Ouisie to JimD    |
|    Re: blew a speaker / horn (1/2)    |
|    11 Oct 17 17:56:24    |
      From: someone@anywheret.net              "JimD" wrote in message news:2017101113295364541-email@nowherecom...              > Frying that driver had some positive benefits. The rest of the band now,       > finally, agrees with me that we're stupid loud sometimes. I've been crying       > for about a year that the cabs on my end of the stage are gonna burst one       > of my eardrums. They don't believe me. Band girl is center stage, can't       > hear anything but the drums directly behind her, or slightly to her left.       > The drummer doesn't care about the monitor level because he's a drummer.       > I bet artillery going off wouldn't bother him       :-)              The sound setup alone sounds like a recipe for disaster.              > So it's just me, saying, geez, this is a bit over the top.              A bit?              > Now that we've fried some cabs, they are at least starting to think, well       > maybe. I like how the questions are " how can we be blowing up cabs ?       > We're not that loud. " Yeah, that's killing me. How about, we are that       > loud ? Or didn't the SPL meter readings convince you ?              Just means someone who cares has to take the initiative and start cranking       volume knobs COUNTERclockwise ;)              > BTW, the replacement drivers for the 315's should be here today, so says       > online tracking. Two of the 2414H-1 neodynium ( sp ? ) units.              For relatively large drivers i.e. not tiny ones, neodymium aka rare earth       (nothing to do with the band) magnets are about as gimmicky as ferrofluid.       Sure neodymium magnets have incredible flux density...I had the chance to       experience some samples personally - one of them 'flew' out of my hand and       slammed into the metal railing on the shelf of my workbench, breaking into       several pieces which stuck to the metal like they were welded there - I had       to carefully ease a razor blade under them to pry them off, and another one       gave me quite a blood blister when I was struggling to pull two of them       apart and my finger slipped ;)       They're incredibly powerful but that high flux density is kind of silly for       anything but the very tiniest of speakers where total flux can be critical -       not to mention the incredible magnetic damping involved, best suited to       higher frequencies, and who needs a 12" tweeter? ;)              > If those look good, I'm ordering the some coil / diaphram kits for the       > other JBL cab we blew a while back. It has a bigger different horn in it,       > still JBL, but not the same one. Has a big ol' ceramic magnet on it. We       > have a lot of JBL stuff :-)              Might as well fix them so so they can go back on the 'active gear roster' ;)              > Yep. Unless he's the ministers brother in law or something, then you be       > stuck :-)              Corruption in church...I don't know why they even bother to call it a       'sanctuary'! :(              And there's some with this character - if I want Corruption, I don't need       to go to church - that can be found anywhere and everywhere...even,       Tragically, in church!              > Easy. A drummer who loses time when he goes into overdone fills.              I've played with plenty of those...seems they're not practicing enough.              > If he's playing loud enough to mask the tracks, and he loses it in a       > flourish of cymbals ...              You're cracking me up ! ;) - flourish of cymbals ;) how about flourish of       Sizzler cymbals! ;) I had to contend with that too....more like losing more       more of one's hearing in too many flourishes of cymbals...that was when I       started wearing earplugs.              > when he finally comes back to earth, the tracks are one place, he's       > somewhere else. It happens, far too often.              > I know. I can prove it. I too own a Tascam :-)              And the rest of the band isn't there either.       If a drummer is going to go off, when he comes back everything should be in       time or else what he's really showing off is that he really doesn't know       what he's doing!!!              > yep. goes into fills, and loses his timing .....              He should be embarrassed to say the least, so much so that he works hard at       doing it right, or not doing it at all!              > Some drummers speed up on fills, others slow down. It's easy to hear if       > you're use to a steady beat.              They need to Listen to the rest of the band to keep the tempo - I often do       fills, particularly when I get too bored from playing CopyCat Crap that's       too boring...even at church when playing songs we've already played too       much...that's how I got the name "Twinkles"...the pastor said I was       'twinkling' on the keys - that was his name for all the various fills,       chops, and other embellishments I was playing to keep the songs interesting       )              > Our guys generally speeds up. One drummer I saw last summer lost time       > every time he went into some tom tom fill.              I don't understand why they don't practice until they don't have that       problem anymore.              > It made me dizzy, like I was ina time warp .... the beat would be all nice       > and steady, then he'd do a fill and the song would suddenly drop in tempo       > for a few beats, then they'd gradually come back to speed. Very creepy. I       > talked to the bassist on that gig, he told me the same thing, drummer       > slows down on fills. They found a new drummer eventually.              Coming back to speed like that is like putting the train back on the track       after it's derailed...not the best way to fix a trainwreck ;)              > This is basic stuff. Any decent drummer would buy a metronome and practice       > his fills with it.              Or play along with recordings - that's what I do all the time.       Practice is FUN!!!              > Well, yeah. That's exactly what our drummer expects to happen. He wants us       > to match his timing.              More like match his Lack of timing!              > Catch is, the tracks can't hear him.              So naturally, he returns the favor ;)              > He has to be the one doing the matching. It's not that hard, it's what he       > expects everyone else to do, match him. Yet he is incapable, or unwilling       > to be the one matching. He wants to lead, not follow.              Now there's something I simply have no basis for relating to. I've been       given the gift of being able to follow and even though I'm quite capable of       leading, not having an ego problem to Impurely motivate me in that area, I       instead follow simply because I *can*, and because it helps the band sound       better much more than 'leading' ever could.              > It's just that he can't seem to match us. Match the tracks. Which, btw, I       > played and actually do stay in time.              He'd definitely got some Learning to do!              > What's needed is a drummer who is capable of listening to the rest of the       > band and staying in time.              That's what a TIGHT band does - everyone Listens to everyone else, all the       while...makes an Awesome difference.              > The " tracks " are just the computer playing a bass line and some other       > rhythm instruments that were done by me ahead of time.              Good for practicing.                     [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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